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Re: On being tired

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Post by cannam »

powersnail wrote: post #11

As I age, I've learned to distinguish "not being excited" (languor) and "being tired" (exhaustion), which to my younger self felt like the same thing. The former is not always caused by a lack of energy, but also excessive idleness, especially if I'm doing things that requires attention but also isn't intellectually stimulating. When the author refers to "normal tired" and "dead tired", I think that echoes with my tw…

I think you're right to distinguish between kinds of tiredness, rather than levels.

The article, good and thoughtful as it is, suggests that a dead-tired state is somehow just more tired than normally tired. But there is also a tiredness in which you are keen and ready and would be happy to get moving with something, but your mind and body are unable to do the real work competently - the analysis or the lifting. This is like your exhaustion, without your languor.

I had this feeling a lot during 2020 and put it down to a justifiable mental response to the times (I hadn't had Covid, as far as I knew) until, slightly to my surprise, I was diagnosed with a vitamin B12 deficiency which turned out to explain pretty much the whole thing.

Re: On being tired

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Post by garganzol »

samsquire wrote: post #42

In the UK it is really hot and we are in drought. I am tired. I hope to get my energy levels back up as all I want to do is sleep. I take iron liquid supplement but I don't know what's causing it. Some days I have energy and can be on the computer until late. Other days I don't want to know.

It can also be vitamin B1 or B12 deficiency.

Re: On being tired

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Post by Silverback_VII »

skrebbel wrote: post #44
Silverback_VII wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To let you drag down by outer circumstances is more dangerous in my opinion. When you start running even if you would rather lay in bed that generates a lot of self-esteem. The resulting positive attitude may even be good for your immune system. In some unfortunate situations you need to take some risks to get out of it.

It's not always about attitude, sometimes it's about physical healing. Sometimes, your body really just needs rest. Stop telling people stuff you don't know enough about.

I know enough about people focusing too much on their wellbeing. You can trust me. Your mindset is more harmful than mine.

Sometimes the body needs rest, it's certainly true, but humans are adapted to a rather unforgiving environment in which you had to function even when in bad shape. Mind and body are connected.

Re: On being tired

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Post by hawski »

glitchc wrote: post #10
beebeepka wrote: post #8

I am a fairly energetic person. Yes, things have been slowing down as I age but my spirit is young. I switched careers several times. About 2 years into my dev role I realized that I do have a relatively fixed amount of cognitive stamina. Took me a while to actually get it. 1. Partying all night has an extremely bad effect due to several factors I better not mention directly 2. Competitive gaming is sucking the life…

People still play Quake?

I am pretty sure people still play Pong, Arkanoid and Doom for that matter. Here, go play Spacewar! - https://archive.org/details/pdp1_spacewar (read instructions below, it is not obvious though, like press LCtrl+Enter to load)

Re: On being tired

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Post by mupuff1234 »

the_only_law wrote: post #26
beebeepka wrote: post #8

I am a fairly energetic person. Yes, things have been slowing down as I age but my spirit is young. I switched careers several times. About 2 years into my dev role I realized that I do have a relatively fixed amount of cognitive stamina. Took me a while to actually get it. 1. Partying all night has an extremely bad effect due to several factors I better not mention directly 2. Competitive gaming is sucking the life…

> Partying all night has an extremely bad effect due to several factors I better not mention directly Unfortunately there’s no time to party during the day.

But you can party in the evening and be in bed by midnight.

Re: On being tired

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Post by tpetry »

atentaten wrote: post #7
angarg12 wrote: post #5

I've spent the last couple of years at the two bottom levels of that scale. It took me an embarrassingly long time to realize one of the root causes: my wife and I have fundamentally different personalities that are at odds with each other. My wife is an extrovert. She is energized by going out, visiting places, doing things, meeting people. I'm an introvert. I get energized by staying in, reading a book, watching a…

What was your solution to the problem of negotiating with your wife about what to do on the weekends?

Friends of mine are mixing weekends. They do one together followed by one each doing things by their own they want to do. So the introvert can e.g. stay home and refresh while the extrovert is again meeting people.

Re: On being tired

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Post by RhodesianHunter »

angarg12 wrote: post #5

I've spent the last couple of years at the two bottom levels of that scale. It took me an embarrassingly long time to realize one of the root causes: my wife and I have fundamentally different personalities that are at odds with each other. My wife is an extrovert. She is energized by going out, visiting places, doing things, meeting people. I'm an introvert. I get energized by staying in, reading a book, watching a…

Wait till you have kids. Or rather: folks who don't have kids yet, recognize that when you do you pretty much lose your weekends to doing things with them. Especially so when you have more than one. I'm not saying this is a bad thing, but it does seem to be a thing that people don't really appreciate until they're knee deep in it.

This often leads to the sort of deep tiredness described in this post for introverted parents.

Re: On being tired

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Post by garganzol »

jdthedisciple wrote: post #38
Silverback_VII wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cardiovascular exercise takes more energy than it gives at the beginning but your body will get less easily tired further down the road. So yes, activities can give energy.

Not sure why you're being downvoted because it seems true to me: For example, starting out with running feels very exhaustive and draining but once you're in the habit of it you overall feel more energetic I believe.

This is true and was proven by numerous scientific observations. Mild physical and intellectual activities indeed improve cellular energy levels to some degree.

Nobody really knows how it works exactly, but it's a fact.

Re: On being tired

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Post by RhodesianHunter »

bberrry wrote: post #16
albingroen wrote: post #9

I also think a very large majority of people on this planet are tired because of an unknown deficit of vitamines and minerals like Omega 3, Zink and Vitamin D

Is there any research to back that claim up?

Significant. Have you tried Google?
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