Remember Abigail Fisher's case against UT in 2016? Thomas, Alito, and Roberts wanted to strike down UT's race-based admissions policy then. Kennedy and Ginsburg, two of the pro-affirmative action voices from that case, have been replaced with much more conservative justices. This might be where we finally abolish race-based admissions.
In Supreme Court brief, Yale and peers defend use of race in admissions
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It is not racism, as for it to be racist it would have to support the idea that people of one race are inherently superior in some form or another to another race. Adjusting representation is not making any claim whatsoever about ability around members of any race, it's attempting to adjust for those kinds of claims that have already (falsely) been made. Nobody who is implementing these policies in any of these Ivy L…
>as for it to be racist you would have to believe that people of a certain race are inherently superior in some form or another.
I don't think that's the standard definition, I think treating people differently because of their race is usually considered racist, even if the discrimination is of the "separate but equal" variety. Especially if the difference in treatment is due to stereotypes and prejudices.
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Same reason we should have had a problem with it then. If racism is wrong, then it shouldn't matter which race.
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How did I, as a white recent immigrant, physically abuse anyone? I had 0 advantages over others that were born here
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#65To quote from the brief. Unlike applicants whose identities have been affected mainly by their socioeconomic or geographic circumstances, applicants whose formative experiences relate to race or ethnicity would be denied the opportunity to convey their full, authentic selves when competing for admission to selective schools like Amici. And so we guarantee that millions of Americans will have a formative experience th…
That is their stated reason, because the only legally acceptable discrimination is for bona fide educational purposes. That is, they cannot discriminate to right historical wrongs, but only because having a diverse student body is part of the education.
I have doubts that this is the real reason, but legally they need to cloak it as that.
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It is not racism, as for it to be racist it would have to support the idea that people of one race are inherently superior in some form or another to another race. Adjusting representation is not making any claim whatsoever about ability around members of any race, it's attempting to adjust for those kinds of claims that have already (falsely) been made. Nobody who is implementing these policies in any of these Ivy L…
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You and I probably agree on the principle. I just want to call attention that this sort of snipe doesn't communicate well, in my opinion. I feel like the term racism has been split between race-based bigotry (which most people argue when they say "I'm not racist!") and supporting systems which encourage systemic preferences for certain groups. As I mention in another comment, I wish I understood this topic more, beca…
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I get your confusion on the topic. But your approach fails to consider that the removal of privilege of a socially preferred group feels like discrimination to members of that group. This means the nuance is a distinction with difference.
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#68To quote from the brief. Unlike applicants whose identities have been affected mainly by their socioeconomic or geographic circumstances, applicants whose formative experiences relate to race or ethnicity would be denied the opportunity to convey their full, authentic selves when competing for admission to selective schools like Amici. And so we guarantee that millions of Americans will have a formative experience th…
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We discriminated against blacks in the past, so whites and asians deserve to be discriminated against in the present. Is this your position?
That is literally the slogan of one of the saints of their ridiculous new religion, Ibram Kendi: "The only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination. The only remedy to present discrimination is future discrimination."
I was gifted a book by that guy for my child. I opened it up and it literally told my child to "confess" her "racist ideas." Why is Kendi calling out for my two year old to confess to her racism? She has caretakers of every race and I've never seen her react to them differently based on perceived "race." It's almost as if he's trying to program her to be racist. Needless to say I never read the child the book.
Perhaps Kendi can take a visit to Africa and witness that there are more slaves today in Africa than any other continent, food for thought for a target audience while he writes his next book.
Enjoy some of the earlier writing of Kendi while he went by his previous name (Rogers):
>Caucasians make up only 10 percent of the world’s population and that small percentage of people have recessive genes. Therefore they’re facing extinction. Whites have tried to level the playing field with the AIDS virus and cloning, but they know these deterrents will only get them so far. This is where the murder, psychological brainwashing and deception comes into play.
>Nevertheless, other than not wanting hate to be the weed that stunts my intellectual growth, I don’t hate white folk because I’m a Christian. How can you hate a group of people for being who they are? Similarly, how can you hate a turtle because it won’t keep up?
http://www.thefamuanonline.com/2003/09/09/living-with-the-wh...
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#70How can it be known with certainty that a group will be diverse, and thus have the benefits of diversity, simply by using race as a datapoint? Is every individual of a particular race innately imbued with some magical ability or perspective? What if you have a Chinese father and a Russian mother and you grew up in Kenya?
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