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Re: Developers are burned out, quitting jobs and creating a crisis for recruiters

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reminds me of; ‘Loads of men are killed in war, women most affected’

Or more commonly: Stocks decline today on news of unemployment. I sure feel sad for those stocks.

Actually, when a company announces layoffs, its stock tends to rise (unless it's in such a bad shape that even major "cost cutting" can't make the punters more optimistic).

Re: Developers are burned out, quitting jobs and creating a crisis for recruiters

#62
Developers: “Cumbersome processes are contributing to burnout.”

Clueless VP: “It’s remote that’s at fault! If everyone were just in the same location, and we could do team-building exercises then everything would be fine!”

Not sure what the author of the article was thinking putting those two statements next to each other.

Re: Developers are burned out, quitting jobs and creating a crisis for recruiters

#63
I am overemployed. That is, I work three full time remote jobs.

At all three orgs, there are developers rapidly burning out and the biggest problem is that despite major organizational crises, ranging from mass layoffs to mass turnover and the inability to fill half the seats on any given team (especially with team leads and senior talent) to enormous projects that have crept up in scope from 8 people to 60, there has been no acknowledgement by management that anything is even wrong.

At the company with layoffs, we are still working on product roadmaps from before, but now entire teams responsible for certain product dependencies are gone.

At the company that cannot fill half the seats, there are no truly senior devs and only two juniors and one intermediate/senior (me and I am not willing to fill a senior role). Our skip manager literally said "assume we have a senior dev or team lead for planning." They have not been able to hire one for 6 months now.

At the company with the project exploding in scope, it can take several weeks to get a meeting with key people as there are just so many wires crossing.

Not even a "we understand that X is not working" from management. Just them repeating goals and deadlines in all orgs.

Re: Developers are burned out, quitting jobs and creating a crisis for recruiters

#64
post #14

It points to developer apathy. I sometimes wonder if that's just the global feeling at the moment. Everyone that's working on widget X suddenly doesn't care because of all the crises going on. Rampant inflation, extreme inequality. By continuing to work on widget x they are just supporting more of the same. Think people want society to change a bit before moving forward with being happy.

Adjacent thread in a different market, currently at the top of r/medicine: "Is it just me... Or do things feel off?" https://www.reddit.com/r/medicine/comments/w9ufnt/is_it_just...

Man, that thread is sobering. I knew things were bad, but to see a whole thread of people agreeing that things are worse than ever does not make me hopeful.

Re: Developers are burned out, quitting jobs and creating a crisis for recruiters

#65
post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Senior devs are nowhere to be found through regular applicant pipelines. They seem to be leaving as a result of reaching out to friends/former colleagues. Which makes sense. Everyone learns that the best way to get jobs is skip the recruitment pipeline by using your network. The recruitment pipeline is so miserable at most companies, why would you put yourself through it unless it is absolutely your dream job? Even…

>Everyone learns that the best way to get jobs is skip the recruitment pipeline by using your network. >Way better to make contacts with people where you want to work and just skip it. Thing is, this process has to be a net positive or it's just unsustainable. Seems to me more and more that networking is just nepotism and doesn't give the best candidates the jobs they are looking for. Add in some title inflation and…

> this process has to be a net positive or it's just unsustainable

Or it has to achieve the bare minimum: filling positions with anyone who makes it through the sieve.

Re: Developers are burned out, quitting jobs and creating a crisis for recruiters

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The question from LaunchDarkly, btw, was as follows (asked to "500 software developers across a range of industries and job titles"): > Have you or someone you worked with ever left a job due to pressures from over minimizing mistakes (i.e. avoiding rollbacks or failed deployments)? [0] ...Which I also would not be comfortable summarizing as "minimizing deployment errors" [0] https://resources.launchdarkly.com/ebooks…

What does "over minimising mistakes" mean? I would expect that the target for 'mistakes', especially serious ones' is zero (while accepting that it may be asymptotic).

I think one they’re talking about 3 month long QA cycles for every deployment.

Re: Developers are burned out, quitting jobs and creating a crisis for recruiters

#67

> A report from software platform LaunchDarkly revealed that nearly 7 in 10 developers (67%) have left a job due to pressure around minimizing deployment errors or know someone who has. I'm not necessarily disagreeing with the statement, but this is a biased-as-hell source for this statement given that LaunchDarkly's product is feature-flag-management (to minimize deployment errors).

LaunchDarkly had a major outage in the past month so maybe they are feeling the pressure.

Re: Developers are burned out, quitting jobs and creating a crisis for recruiters

#68
post #20

My biggest source of burnout is really from mundane failures in processes: flaky tests that fail for no good reason, and obscure bugs that are hard to reproduce. These things take up 90% of my time and I feel like a code janitor, rather than a developer. Any company dealing with burnout should consider this.

My biggest source of burnout of late is the MS Power Platform. Being under pressure to deliver with half baked tools due to "political demands" made the vast majority of us consider other options.

Today, we learned that we will no longer be using much of the "Power" Platform...but we have all wasted a year of our lives "trying".

Now that we are done, I look forward to getting back into the gym before using "traditional" tooling that actually works.

In the future I will be more careful with the projects I work on - with a preference for mature technologies. Erlang, Java, RDMS, Rust etc. sure. Latest shiny from tech company where people hate their jobs - NO WAY. They will bring us all down.

Re: Developers are burned out, quitting jobs and creating a crisis for recruiters

#69
post #14

It points to developer apathy. I sometimes wonder if that's just the global feeling at the moment. Everyone that's working on widget X suddenly doesn't care because of all the crises going on. Rampant inflation, extreme inequality. By continuing to work on widget x they are just supporting more of the same. Think people want society to change a bit before moving forward with being happy.

Adjacent thread in a different market, currently at the top of r/medicine: "Is it just me... Or do things feel off?" https://www.reddit.com/r/medicine/comments/w9ufnt/is_it_just...

The thread scares me, as it confirms some of my own feelings for the past year or so. To see it written down by strangers is just.. eerie

Re: Developers are burned out, quitting jobs and creating a crisis for recruiters

#70
Its just the grind. Show up everyday, do the same thing, build Widget X or Widget Y. Sit in meetings to discuss mundane points. Sit there on mute while people argue and are openly rude to each other. Do it for 2 years and then get a new job to move up the ladder and get a higher salary. Remote makes it even worse as you have zero real work relationships. Meet with your director once a week to discuss progress with his little black zoom box with his name on it in white font.

Every day... For decades...

At the end what have built? What can I show my kids? There is no bridge the I made with my hands, no building, nothing permanent. Whatever I made has been cast aside in the next redesign.

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