That's about 10x as expensive as it should be
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DALL·E now available in beta
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#62I'm blown away by this: "Starting today, users get full usage rights to commercialize the images they create with DALL·E, including the right to reprint, sell, and merchandise. This includes images they generated during the research preview." I assumed this was going to be the sticking point for wider usage for a long time. They're now saying that you have full rights to sell Dall-E 2 creations?
Does DALL-E create different outputs for the same input? How does ownership work there?
Not only that, but you can also upload an image (that doesn't depict a real person) and generate variations of it without providing a prompt.
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#63One of the commercial use cases this post mentions is authors who want to add illustrations to children's stories. I wonder if there is a way for DALL-E to generate a character, then persist that character over subsequent runs. Otherwise, it would be pretty difficult to generate illustrations that depict a coherent story. Example ... Image 1 prompt: A character named Boop, a green alien with three arms, climbs out of…
You can't do that. I can't see this working well for children's book illustrations unless the story was specifically tailored in a way that makes continuity of style and characters irrelevant.
I would expect continuuity to be a relatively simple feature to retrain for and implement.
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#64That's disappointing given up until this point you could have 50 free uses per 24h. I expected it to get monetized eventually, but not so fast and drastically. Well, still had my fun and have to say the creations are so good it's often mind blowing there's an AI behind it.
Honestly, it is probably just that expensive to run. You can’t expect someone to hand you free compute of significant value and directly charging for it is a lot better than other things they could do.
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#65I'm blown away by this: "Starting today, users get full usage rights to commercialize the images they create with DALL·E, including the right to reprint, sell, and merchandise. This includes images they generated during the research preview." I assumed this was going to be the sticking point for wider usage for a long time. They're now saying that you have full rights to sell Dall-E 2 creations?
> "Starting today, users get full usage rights to commercialize the images they create with DALL·E, including the right to reprint, sell, and merchandise. This includes images they generated during the research preview."
>> And I just used it to create cover art for a book published in Amazon :)
Man... what a missed opportunity for Altman... he could have had a really good cryptocurrency/token with a healthy ecosystem and a creative based community if he didn't push this Worldcoin biometric harvesting BS had he just waited for this to release and coupled it with access to GPT.
This is the kind of thing that Web3 (a joke) was pushing for all along: revolutionary tech that the everyday person can understand with it's own token based ecosystem for access with full creative rights from the prompts.
I wonder if he stepped down from Open AI and put it in a figurehead as CEO could this still work?
> Why is using a token better than using money, in this case?
It would be better for OpenAI if it can monetize not just its subscription based model via a token to pay for overhead and for further R/D but also for it's ability to issue tokens it can freely exchange for utility on it's platform for exclusive access outside of it's capped $15 model and allow for pay as you go models for those who don't have access to it like myself as it's limited to 1 million users.
I don't want an account, and I think that type of gatekeeping wasn't cool during the gmail days either and I had early access back then too, but I'd still personally buy $100s of dollars worth of prompts right now since I think it is fascinating use of NLP and I'm just one of many missed opportunities and represent a lost userbase who just want access for specific projects. By doing this they can still retain the caps of useage on their platform and expand and contract them as they see fit without excluding others.
This in turn could justify the continual investment from the VC World into these projects (under the guise of web3) and allow them to scale into viable businesses and further expand the use of AI/ML into other creative spaces, which as a person studying AI and ML and a background in BTC, is what we all wanted to see instead of these aimless bubbles in things like Solana or yield farming via fake DeFi projects like Calesius that we've seen.
It would legitimize the use of a token for use of an ecosystem model outside of BTC, which to be honest doesn't really exist and has still a tarnished view with all these failed projects, while gaining reception amongst a greater audience since it's captivated so many since it's release.
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#67> Reducing bias: We implemented a new technique so that DALL·E generates images of people that more accurately reflect the diversity of the world’s population. This technique is applied at the system level when DALL·E is given a prompt about an individual that does not specify race or gender, like “CEO.” Will it do it "more accurately" as they claim? As in, if 90% of CEOs are male, then the odds of a CEO being male i…
The latter. Here's what we, a small number of people, think the world should look like according to our own biases and information bubble in the current moment. We will impose our biases upon you, the unenlightened masses who must be manipulated for your own good. And for god sakes, don't look for photos of the US Math team or NBA Basketball or compare soccer teams across different countries and cultures.
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#68Something I haven’t seen anyone talking about with these huge models: how do future models get trained when more content online is model generated to start with? Presumably you don’t wanna train a model on autogenerated images or text, but you can’t necessarily know which is which.
This should be a step in cleaning your data to begin with. If you don't know the providence of your data then you shouldn't be even training with it. Getting humans to refine your data is the best solution right now and many companies and researches go with this approach.
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#69Super impressive to see how OpenAI managed to bring the project from research to production (something usable for creatives). This is non trivial since the usecase involves filtering NSFW content, reducing bias in generated images. Kudos to the entire team.
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#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
Previously, OpenAI asserted they owned the generated images, so the new licensing is a shift in that aspect. GPT-3 also has a "you own the content" clause as well. Of course, that clause won't deter a third party from filing a lawsuit against you if you commercialize a generated image too close to something realistic, as the copyrights of AI generated content still hasn't been legally tested.
AFAIK only people can own copyright (the monkey selfie case tested this), and machine-generated outputs don't count as creative work (you can't write an algorithm that generates every permutation of notes and claim you own every song[1]), so DALL-E-generated images are most likely copyright-free. I presume OpenAI only relies on terms of service to dictate what users are allowed to do, but they can't own the images, a…
The monkey selfie was not derived from millions of existing works, and that is the difference. If an artist has a well-known art style, and this algorithm was trained on it and can copy that style, would the artist have grounds to sue? I don't know.