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Re: Tom Lord has died

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He was five years my senior. I never expected to be immortal but at my age one starts becoming aware that you have more weeks behind your back than in front of you. I like to think that living is just untangling a web that somehow fate has already set for you. So in the end what counts is living each and every moment as if it was the most important one, and loving and caring about the people that love and care about…

While I like the sound of a mentality that suggests paying attention to every moment, it does raise the question: pay attention at what level? Count the leaves on every tree? This question motivates a different follow-up question: how should we pay attention? Our senses can be deceived, so we should also use reason and conceptual understandings to literally enrich (de-noise perhaps) our raw senses? But some philosoph…

Good question, and good point. I read a definition of information a while ago (actually it was Judea Pearl's), which defined it in the usual log-negative way, but in terms of the probability of states that you care to distinguish.

I mean it's obviously sensible. In the context of binary information in a computer, for instance, we (generally) don't care about exact voltages, we group it all together as 0 or 1. And talking about genetic information, we don't (usually) care about, say, if a slightly unusual isotope has snuck in in one of the usual nucleic acids, since that "information" isn't copied in the usual way.

It's very obvious, but it's also more profound than it looks. Even for something as seemingly purely mathematical as information, there's actually teleology, assumptions about what matters, baked in every time we apply it.

Re: Tom Lord has died

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Shouldn't be any more sad then reading old books and letters of great minds past. Death is necessary part of life. Also keeps the living from idling or (arguably) should at least ;-}

It is today, but doesn’t have to be: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/aSQy7yHj6nPD44RNo/how-to-see... Hopefully we’ll fix it one day.

Even if the wildest dreams of transhumanists come true, that would not be the permanent abolition of death, merely postponing the inevitable. With every passing millennia, the odds of dying by accident or homicide would only grow. Even supposing mind uploading works - that strategy might keep you safe from accidents, but eventually you’ll die in the heat death of the universe. Schemes proposed to beat that are so extremely speculative-they are no more believable than religious afterlife claims (maybe even less so). Entropy always wins in the end-with the possible exception of unimaginably long timescales-eventually, maybe, we’ll all be resurrected as Boltzmann brains, or endure this exact life repeating an infinite number of times without change (Nietzsche, meet Poincaré). But odds are you’ll die long before that. Or our simulators will get bored with us, and turn this universe off.

Re: Tom Lord has died

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post #35

> speaking the truth about the climate emergency and treating it as an actual emergency. Unfortunately this advocacy frequently took unproductive directions, being abusive to elected officials and staff at the local and state levels,[1] and opposing changes that would help move things in the right direction climate-wise, such as building more in-fill housing in Berkeley, because some other action (say, convincing peo…

. [1] source - personal conversations with those officials and employees about Tom's behavior That is not a source. That is a personal opinion reported. Politics. Bullshit. Together forever

t. no idea how books and articles are written

Re: Tom Lord has died

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post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He was five years my senior. I never expected to be immortal but at my age one starts becoming aware that you have more weeks behind your back than in front of you. I like to think that living is just untangling a web that somehow fate has already set for you. So in the end what counts is living each and every moment as if it was the most important one, and loving and caring about the people that love and care about…

While I like the sound of a mentality that suggests paying attention to every moment, it does raise the question: pay attention at what level? Count the leaves on every tree? This question motivates a different follow-up question: how should we pay attention? Our senses can be deceived, so we should also use reason and conceptual understandings to literally enrich (de-noise perhaps) our raw senses? But some philosoph…

This is a great question, but I'd answer that paying _some_ attention is better than paying _no_ attention at all. Some people study and train for years and reportedly they achieve full happiness, but certainly that is not my case and, to be honest, it's hard. ymmv.

Re: Tom Lord has died

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That absolutely is a source from which you can form an opinion on the content which indeed you have. Leaving it unspecified so you can't reliably is the issue that does not exist here.

But is the point of death the right point to these grievances? Like wait a day or month even. I get that some grievances don’t need to wait (Limbaugh) but it’s a high bar.

> Like wait a day or month even.

He did wait. Tom Lord died about a month ago.

Re: Tom Lord has died

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post #45

> speaking the truth about the climate emergency and treating it as an actual emergency. Unfortunately this advocacy frequently took unproductive directions, being abusive to elected officials and staff at the local and state levels,[1] and opposing changes that would help move things in the right direction climate-wise, such as building more in-fill housing in Berkeley, because some other action (say, convincing peo…

I don't doubt or dispute any of your points, but it would have been far nicer to wait and air them at a different time and in a different venue -- step back for now and give people a chance to grieve and pay their respects to someone who just died unexpectedly.

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Re: Tom Lord has died

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I have a request for hacker news, in remembering Tom Lord: do you have any of his code lying around? It's hard to find. In addition to GNU arch, I know he once worked on these things:

* a c library called hackerlab

* a Scheme implementation called Pika Scheme

* a regular expression library called rx (may have been renamed to rgx)

* an embeddable VM called Furth

* a graph reduction engine/functional language runtime of some sort

Re: Tom Lord has died

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Shouldn't be any more sad then reading old books and letters of great minds past. Death is necessary part of life. Also keeps the living from idling or (arguably) should at least ;-}

It is today, but doesn’t have to be: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/aSQy7yHj6nPD44RNo/how-to-see... Hopefully we’ll fix it one day.

Be careful what you wish for.

Read this, from someone who's thought about it a bit more deeply than Mr Yudkowsky.

https://qntm.org/mmacevedo

Re: Tom Lord has died

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> speaking the truth about the climate emergency and treating it as an actual emergency. Unfortunately this advocacy frequently took unproductive directions, being abusive to elected officials and staff at the local and state levels,[1] and opposing changes that would help move things in the right direction climate-wise, such as building more in-fill housing in Berkeley, because some other action (say, convincing peo…

De mortuis nil nisi bonum.

Re: Tom Lord has died

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I have a request for hacker news, in remembering Tom Lord: do you have any of his code lying around? It's hard to find. In addition to GNU arch, I know he once worked on these things: * a c library called hackerlab * a Scheme implementation called Pika Scheme * a regular expression library called rx (may have been renamed to rgx) * an embeddable VM called Furth * a graph reduction engine/functional language runtime o…

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://regexps.srparish.net/src... has a few versions of hackerlab and pika.

hackerlab is also part of tla distributions (since the latter uses the former extensively)

hackerlab contains (some version of) rx.

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