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Re: Firefox 8.0 is Released

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Post by Ziomislaw »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #53
Tichy wrote: post #18

The add-on thing could be huge, if it works out. I am tired of seeing computers riddled with spybars.

Definitely a good idea for Windows users, and possibly Macs as well (I don't know the prevalence of browser-infesting software there). On Linux, though, it promptly flagged all of the addons I had installed through the distro packaging system as "third-party addons" and wanted to disable them by default.

so it worked properly on Linux. there is no way to know whether an addon instaled 'for the whole' system was added by third party, or by package. only addons in Your home dir are considered as 'installed by you'

Re: Firefox 8.0 is Released

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Post by wslh »

Sanddancer wrote: post #57
latif wrote: post #52

The Firefox teams seems to no longer care about add-ons and add-on users. I am an Add-on author. I submitted an updated version of my addon for Firefox 8 on October 27. Twelve days later the new version is still sitting in a sandbox waiting editorial review. With a new release happening every 6 weeks this kind of behavior is inexcusable and will likely drive people away from Add-ons. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/…

I disagree. The folks at Mozilla are not so quietly encouraging developers to get involved in the alpha and beta releases to ensure that things do work on day one of a release? How much work was done up to October 27 ensuring that your add-on was ready to go?

Sorry Sanddancer but my experience as an add-on author is that writing free add-ons can quickly turn to a demanding job.

For example, if you look at the tab mix plus add-on source code you can find a very long list of workarounds to make it work in different contexts.

Re: Firefox 8.0 is Released

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Post by bergie »

rnadna wrote: post #31

Is this great news, or good news, or nothing too exciting? Dunno. It might be interesting to learn how many people read this in another browser, popped over to firefox to update it ... and then returned to their other browser. We may be at the point where browsers are like toilet paper -- lots of brands will do the work, and it's hard to pay much attention to which one is installed.

Firefox Sync sort of changes that for me. It gives enough convenience that I've also gone Firefox on my mobile devices. Being able to access open tabs from my laptop on the phone is great when I'm sitting in the bus.

Re: Firefox 8.0 is Released

#64

Post by faruken »

joenathan wrote: post #8
recoiledsnake wrote: post #5

Just got the notification, but didn't upgrade because a lot of my very useful extensions for HTML dev weren't compatible. I don't think the new features in 7->8 make up for the lack of my extensions.

Use this extension to "make" your extensions compatible https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/add-on-compat...

Which would beg the question why would I need an addon to make my current addons compatible with Firefox? Everyone knew that 6 weeks release cycle is going to break addons but they've decided to go with it anyway. I'd expect from Mozilla to make such decision after fixing the potential problems. I've been hearing this will be fixed soon but that date is yet to come.

Re: Firefox 8.0 is Released

#65

Post by nassosdim »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #55
evanw wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is great, thanks for posting it. I manage my passwords with 1Password, and while they're good about pushing updates, I've never seen their Firefox extension marked as compatible when a new version of Firefox is released.

Why 1Password rather than Firefox Sync?

Probably because 1Password doesn't support just a specific browser and it's also available for tablets and smartphones.

Re: Firefox 8.0 is Released

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Post by patd »

latif wrote: post #52

The Firefox teams seems to no longer care about add-ons and add-on users. I am an Add-on author. I submitted an updated version of my addon for Firefox 8 on October 27. Twelve days later the new version is still sitting in a sandbox waiting editorial review. With a new release happening every 6 weeks this kind of behavior is inexcusable and will likely drive people away from Add-ons. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/…

My last addon release was reviewed after a little over a month.

They do however do automatic check to ensure that your addon still works with newer releases and upgrade the compatibility automatically.

Re: Firefox 8.0 is Released

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Post by yxhuvud »

Karunamon wrote: post #17
notatoad wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

here we go again with the version number complaints. get over it. it doesn't make any difference to you what number they want to call it.

Considering the whole reason they're doing this crap is to make it look like they're keeping up to date with Chrome, yeah, it kinda does make a difference. Methinks they don't understand the concept of "Major release.minor release"

Another option is that they understand it but believe it is a concept that has bad effects if followed.

Re: Firefox 8.0 is Released

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Post by quinndupont »

bergie wrote: post #63
rnadna wrote: post #31

Is this great news, or good news, or nothing too exciting? Dunno. It might be interesting to learn how many people read this in another browser, popped over to firefox to update it ... and then returned to their other browser. We may be at the point where browsers are like toilet paper -- lots of brands will do the work, and it's hard to pay much attention to which one is installed.

Firefox Sync sort of changes that for me. It gives enough convenience that I've also gone Firefox on my mobile devices. Being able to access open tabs from my laptop on the phone is great when I'm sitting in the bus.

I really hope the persistent sync bugs get worked out soon. I'm told that the final, and big, fix was in alpha, which makes me think that it's not in 8.0. Soon, soon.

Re: Firefox 8.0 is Released

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Post by carussell »

nassosdim wrote: post #65
JoshTriplett wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why 1Password rather than Firefox Sync?

Probably because 1Password doesn't support just a specific browser and it's also available for tablets and smartphones.

The Sync API is documented, and Mozilla encourages development of outside server and client implementations. Sync is available for tablets and smartphones.

Re: Firefox 8.0 is Released

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Post by hozzer »

sp332 wrote: post #3
hozzer wrote: post #2

Dear Mozilla. Why do you keep doing all these full version releases? Seriously it's just annoying. Just because IE is on version 10. Doesn't mean you have to be. Why are you doing this.... You've gone from 3-8 in a year. That's not right.

"Full" version releases? There will be a new release every six weeks. Whatever features are ready to be shipped at that time will be released. There was a discussion about removing the version number from the "About" box but it was left in for debugging purposes. That's all the version number is for now. Since there are no "long-term support" versions, just make sure you're up-to-date and don't give the version numbe…

The point about "There was a discussion about removing the version number" is about the only appropriate response I got that somebody actually got my rant.

However you are Assuming "The latest is the Greatest".

There was one of the versions 5 or 6, I forget. I didn't want it. But when it came time to reformat my computer I didn't have a choice and had to get an older version from a friend. It was buggy and slow. Crashed with Flash all the time. You could blame Adobe, but I want to wait till it gets worked out to upload.

I'm just wandering why not 4.1 - 4.2 with an automatic update especially if it's a security issue. People are much more likely to download an update then a full version upgrade. You can't tell me you don't automatically click "Update" when it pops up vs load new version where you think twice.

I can tell you my friends have a variety versions of firefox 3-7 (Not all of them are tech savvy). But I guarantee they all have they most up to date sub version of what ever they are on.

Also as a rule with version releases I usually wait a month or 2 to let other people "beta" test it to make sure their are no major bugs. It's something I have applied in my career and has protected me from various software issues that come with new version. XP -> Vista -> 7 is an example for why I never used Vista but now happily run 7.

I'm sorry but Mozilla is not using versions right.

I'm just shocked people don't get this and my comment was taken with such backlash. And don't get me wrong, I love mozilla and what they've done. I love firefox.

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