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What the Hell Was the Microsoft Network? (2018)

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Re: What the Hell Was the Microsoft Network? (2018)

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I'm from the UK and in my forties, and I've never heard of 'Cix'. Just me?

I'm a bit older than you and it passed me by along with CompuServe and other BBSs. It was mentioned in magazines such as PC Pro but I didn't get a modem until Windows 95 came out. After a quick play with the Microsoft Network the web took over for me.

Re: What the Hell Was the Microsoft Network? (2018)

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It was called Project Blackbird.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackbird_(online_platform)

"It was later revealed that Blackbird had severe performance problems because of an over-complex architecture which made excessive use of multi-threading. When prototypes of the Trident HTML layout engine were completed, and it was shown that the goals of complex layout in Blackbird could be achieved in HTML at better performance, it led to executives to rethink the project."

Re: What the Hell Was the Microsoft Network? (2018)

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The Briefcase was a godsend back when removable storage was used to move files between computers and there was no other way to keep things synced. It's a shame they removed it.

You could always just build such a system yourself quite trivially by getting an FTP account, mounting it locally with curlftpfs, and then using SVN or CVS on the mounted filesystem. ;)

Certainly more reliable than dropbox

Re: What the Hell Was the Microsoft Network? (2018)

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Knoware (pun intended, probably), my first Internet provider, back in 1993, had a 9600 baud connection to the Internet, shared by all his customers. When I phoned the guy (late, as he worked at night and slept during the day) to get a login, his first question was: do you have a Mac? There was no TCP/IP stack for Windows back then (Trumpet Winsock only came out in 1994, and was not a Microsoft product). He had heard…

MS was pushing information superhighway back then - a top down network done by big media players that was supposed to overcome Internet

It's getting there

Re: What the Hell Was the Microsoft Network? (2018)

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I'm from the UK and in my forties, and I've never heard of 'Cix'. Just me?

I remember Cix, though I never had it. We had Demon giving me access to this incredible Internet thing, on the super fast 14.4kbps modem!

With email delivered to you via SMTP when you dialed up

Re: What the Hell Was the Microsoft Network? (2018)

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I'm from the UK and in my forties, and I've never heard of 'Cix'. Just me?

I remember Cix, though I never had it. We had Demon giving me access to this incredible Internet thing, on the super fast 14.4kbps modem!

I'm an ex-demonite too. Had all the telehone numbers of the local pops (point of presence) in a file to copy to the moden after the ADT command. As the pops were heavily subscribed and would often just give engaged tones, I used to use the net at 6am. The phone rates were cheaper then too.

Re: What the Hell Was the Microsoft Network? (2018)

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Knoware (pun intended, probably), my first Internet provider, back in 1993, had a 9600 baud connection to the Internet, shared by all his customers. When I phoned the guy (late, as he worked at night and slept during the day) to get a login, his first question was: do you have a Mac? There was no TCP/IP stack for Windows back then (Trumpet Winsock only came out in 1994, and was not a Microsoft product). He had heard…

While Microsoft may well not have understood it (as a corporate entity, or indeed key decision makers at the firm) it was a done deal long before 1995. I date it to late 1991/ early 1992 when JIPS stops being a pilot service. Background, by 1990 there are two popular global networking technologies, the Internet Protocol suite of Unix adjacent technologies born in the US, and the X.25 suite of technologies popular in…

I do remember this not-quite-internet at university in the 90s. Telnet was "spad" and FTP was "hhcp". If you wanted to connect to a real FTP server, you had to send hhcp requests to "ft-relay" and the FTP hostname was the first folder name under the root.

Re: What the Hell Was the Microsoft Network? (2018)

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There is nothing inherently „broken“ about the security design. Do you even realise how diluted this sounds? I’m all for watching corporations closely, but the tale you’re telling is simply wrong, and I hope you know that, even if it sure is tempting that you might know better than the rest of the world…

Do you know better than Microsoft itself? Is it not true that Microsoft is tracking your movement across the OS? Is it not true that Microsoft tracks what apps you are running? Is it not true that Microsoft tracks every movement your MS account does? They admit they're doing it - what's your answer to that?

What you’re talking about isn’t the foundational security model of the operating system, but telemetry and tracking systems built into it.

I’m very much opposed to those too, but comparing them to the security model is apples vs. oranges. All I’ve seen so far, is that telemetry doesn’t open up any glaring holes in the security model of the operating system, but I’d be interested if you have any proof of that.

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