This actually might be unpickable. But the small space of keys (6^6 combinations) makes me think you could just fabricate every single key and test them one by one, if you were really determined
Enclave: An Unpickable Lock
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Re: Enclave: An Unpickable Lock
#62I do feel that selective brute forcing is going to become popular one day or another e.g. a key with mechanical sections to actuate the pins to specific heights, plus, a very precise rotational sensor (perhaps acoustic sensors too) but anyways, potential but easily fixable methods: a magnet with enough force to pull the slider would give tension, so just don't make it ferrous the slider will always get super close to…
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#63But then, alas, the outer core could made of short rings. Rings must move in unison, and LPL can not tension them all at the same time. "Stack of wafers" not needed. (And thus I accidentally invented combination of disc lock and pin lock. The inner pin lock gives solution the outer disc lock. Patent not pending.. :-)
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#64What's the threat model? Does this lock secure a location that has no windows? Can a sledgehammer be used to open the door? Ok, so maybe covert entry is harder. Do you care THAT much about covert entry? If you care that much about covert entry, do you also have video monitoring? Security solutions need to be used in context.
Your points are technically true but effectively vacuous, equally applicable to all possible door locks. Is there someone claiming that just because this lock is (allegedly) unpickable, it's a complete security solution, so that you felt you had to comment on the importance of other approaches to security?
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#65This looks very similar to the design[0] by Stuff Made Here (and collaborative hardening [1] suggestions by Lock Picking Lawyer)…an excellent set of videos. https://youtu.be/2A2NY29iQdI https://youtu.be/Ecy1FBdCRbQ
There’s also a lock on that channel he can’t pick - the bowley I think? It has a wild key design.
Re: Enclave: An Unpickable Lock
#66What's the threat model? Does this lock secure a location that has no windows? Can a sledgehammer be used to open the door? Ok, so maybe covert entry is harder. Do you care THAT much about covert entry? If you care that much about covert entry, do you also have video monitoring? Security solutions need to be used in context.
And that hitting something with a sledge or smashing a window would both activate alarms, and just, be really loud regardless.
Yes, there is places without windows and with reinforced doors
Even setting that aside, impressioning attacks require only seconds at a doorway for each step in the process, this defeats that attack.
bump keys only requires ~30 seconds if you are lucky, this defeats that
And yes DoD has security cameras, most places do actually.
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#67This does seem like it might be vulnerable to a comb pick attack, if you can push all those wafer stacks into the sliding bar.
Re: Enclave: An Unpickable Lock
#68This looks very similar to the design[0] by Stuff Made Here (and collaborative hardening [1] suggestions by Lock Picking Lawyer)…an excellent set of videos. https://youtu.be/2A2NY29iQdI https://youtu.be/Ecy1FBdCRbQ
There’s also a lock on that channel he can’t pick - the bowley I think? It has a wild key design.
https://youtu.be/ai5Hf-wPXFE and he mentions it's a collaboration at 4:29.
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#69Interesting design. I made a lock a couple years ago that is quite similar in principle (though this design is different and has a couple nice improvements). https://youtu.be/_7vPNcnYWQ4 One of my main goals is to be an inspiration, though if it was based by my design I wish they’d credit it. Especially since they’re patenting it.
Re: Enclave: An Unpickable Lock
#70Interesting design. I made a lock a couple years ago that is quite similar in principle (though this design is different and has a couple nice improvements). https://youtu.be/_7vPNcnYWQ4 One of my main goals is to be an inspiration, though if it was based by my design I wish they’d credit it. Especially since they’re patenting it.
I'm currently an operator of heavy machinery in a factory making tools for the wafer industry, although my main career is in software development. I'm actively working with the tools and software used to get a better understanding of the disconnect between engineering and operations. It's been a great way to consider how to improve tools in ways that aren't just "better" from a software/engineering standpoint.
Also, holy cow. I've watched all of your videos multiple times. You are truly an inspiration. Thank you, and apologies for the fanboying.