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Tell HN: Brother printers now locking out non-OEM paraphernalia

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Re: Tell HN: Brother printers now locking out non-OEM paraphernalia

#61
Aw and I thought brother was one of the good ones.

The FTC seems to have got off their ass recently, so maybe it'd be worth it to file consumer protection complaints about shitty printer company behavior. I'm sure HN alone could fill their mailbox to bursting.

Re: Tell HN: Brother printers now locking out non-OEM paraphernalia

#62
post #18

Soon they'll have a hidden 5G Internet connection that sends all printed material to the manufacturer, who will then sell the data to advertisers and the state. Are there still any new printers (postscript, laser) that are reasonable? Black and white printing is sufficient.

There's an XKCD for that: https://xkcd.com/416/ Also, actual example of a smart TV connecting to an unprotected WiFI: https://web.archive.org/web/20210912135232/https://forum.dev...

I wish ours connected to any wifi?

I have a strong feeling this is somehow related to our local office network, but... any wifi printers we have never 'wake on lan'. If I reboot the printer, it's connected. 30-60 minutes later, it will not respond to any network commands. It's on, and you can go insert USB stick to print, or make a copy on it, and it says it has an IP address, but it's essentially 'dead'. Although it has 'wake on LAN' set (or whatever the setting is).

Brother, but same issue with HP before that (and... someone else reports similar with their printer in their office too). But we have a dozen people plus more devices on the wifi every day without incident. Just something about the printers we've had over the last few years.

Have changed wifi routers at least once during this period as well to no avail.

Re: Tell HN: Brother printers now locking out non-OEM paraphernalia

#63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not similar at all to phone charger cables. My iPhone cables, which are now being made illegal by the EU, work perfectly (including the third-party ones).

If Apple made third party cables not work or work poorly it would be the same. But now they can't do that even if they wanted to. I would be happy to have to throw out ink cartridges I currently use due to a law change if it meant that forever onwards I knew I could buy third party ink and use it without issues. This would also have the effect of lowering OEM ink prices because they would have to compete. Free market…

> If Apple made third party cables not work or work poorly it would be the same.

Indeed, if the situation were different, it would be the same as this one, but it’s not.

Re: Tell HN: Brother printers now locking out non-OEM paraphernalia

#64

Buy an EPSON. Apart from the fact they have separate ink cartridges for each colour, they also don't act like satan.

Don't. You need to have all colour ink cartridges even if you only print B&W, and if you don't print often, you will need to replace the cartridges after some time anyway. I don't know if that's because the ink dries out or if they have some artificial time limit, but I had to replace all cartridges every half year or so while I think I printed only a few dozen pages in that time, almost all black & white.

I replaced it with a €140 Brother B&W laser printer/scanner a year or two ago and have been happy with it ever since. Sad to hear they turned evil too.

Re: Tell HN: Brother printers now locking out non-OEM paraphernalia

#65

Bummer, I’ve been a fan of Brother in the past. Owned two monochrome laser printers that have been great over 10 years of service with not a single paper jam.

I agree and recommend them to everyone. That said, their monochrome lasers also prevent non-OEM toners from working without an opaque sequence of key presses. Maybe this is normal for printers but it was non-obvious for me.

Re: Tell HN: Brother printers now locking out non-OEM paraphernalia

#66
This is why I've never voluntarily owned a printer. Well, never actually owned one at all. My father got a bit frustrated that I didn't have a home printer and gifted one to my wife. It was used a couple of times.

If I have something I need to print, I print it at work or at the library. Happens less than once a year. I don't need my own printer.

Re: Tell HN: Brother printers now locking out non-OEM paraphernalia

#69
post #53
post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want to print something once a month you can buy a cheap printer for like €40 – which is probably subsidized because the manufacturer thinks they will earn it back on selling you overpriced ink. But they won't since you will buy a single toner and cover all of your printing needs. Anyway, I don't have a printer. I always just take my pdf and take a walk to a local printing service.

As long as it's not an inkjet printer, since the ink will dry out or the printer will just think the ink is too old after half a year or so.

Yes! This was my plan too but I made the mistake of buying an Epson that is always “low on ink” and a PITA about third party cartridges.

Re: Tell HN: Brother printers now locking out non-OEM paraphernalia

#70
post #3

Buy a Kyocera

If the consumer printers are anything like the office printers, no thanks. The one at my office has to be serviced in-person but a tech almost every week.

i'm talking about a previous-generation one from ebay, been solid as a rock for me.

sad to hear you have had such luck. Printers... YMMV.

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