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Re: Reddit acquires ML startup Spell

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Imagine how easy it would be to sell ads on reddit, the users self select topics. If I subscribed to r/koreancosmetics and r/makeup, do you really need ML to figure out which ads to show?

Well, they still need to advertise makeup and cosmetics that you can buy where you live for starters.

Re: Reddit acquires ML startup Spell

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post #55

Reddit should focus on making their community less toxic, it’s hands down one of the most toxic places on the internet. These problems don’t need ML

The level of enforced groupthink there is unbearable.

literally unbearable, I think its fundamental to how the platform is designed. I have no idea why anyone would want that

Re: Reddit acquires ML startup Spell

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I worked at Reddit for several years in the past - if anything, they have the exact opposite of viral momentum: https://twitter.com/paulg/status/1360263618508521480?lang=en I do agree on the neat alternative piece, but all of the ones that have come up in the past had some sort of flaw (or in some cases deliberate slower growth) that caused them not to go viral (Voat, Tildes, etc)

I'm honestly flabbergasted that with all the nearly-free money flowing around, nobody tried to build a better Reddit without making it both worse and even MORE filled with spam and nazis. I suspect in general the entire "thing" that is Reddit is on its way out - just like how craigslist killed classified ads and itself may be slowly dying, Reddit killed forums and now is slowly dying, there may be no replacement.

Reddit doesn't make crazy profits, and it's sort of hard to see a way to monetize a similar product without becoming what you're trying to replace.

Re: Reddit acquires ML startup Spell

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The moment they kill/break old.reddit.com is the moment I quit reddit for good Unless they magically release a not horrible new UI, which I'm not holding my breath for

Likewise. It's probably the worst web UI I currently know of. Whatever team designed and implemented it should really feel bad about themselves and their work, it's unnecessarily bad, as if they were trying to make a shitty UI. I will happily stop using reddit if they kill old.reddit.com

It's not just bad it's _unusable_ on any older mobile device. Takes 10 seconds to load a page, greets you with a "Reddit is more fun in the app" popup that takes up half the page, then will display the top 3 comments but if you scroll down it will load a random different post that they think you'll like instead of showing you more comments.

Re: Reddit acquires ML startup Spell

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm honestly flabbergasted that with all the nearly-free money flowing around, nobody tried to build a better Reddit without making it both worse and even MORE filled with spam and nazis. I suspect in general the entire "thing" that is Reddit is on its way out - just like how craigslist killed classified ads and itself may be slowly dying, Reddit killed forums and now is slowly dying, there may be no replacement.

Reddit doesn't make crazy profits, and it's sort of hard to see a way to monetize a similar product without becoming what you're trying to replace.

Good point - the "open source/non-profit" energies seem to be focused on things like mastodon and simple forums, and competitors that aren't trying for venture capital such as Facebook would just want you to use their offering instead. I suspect for many people, "Facebook Groups" is their Reddit replacement.

Re: Reddit acquires ML startup Spell

#66
Having been a long-time user of Wikia (now Fandom) as well as Reddit, it's been interesting to see Reddit go down the same path Wikia did. In my opinion, both websites started out similarly: somewhat simply designed, focused on content, and with room for communities to form themselves. Over time, both websites started pushing harder for monetization and in the process, made changes to prioritize advertising over content, and started pressuring communities to behave and interact in approved ways. It doesn't look like either website is struggling or likely to go under financially, but the charm and community of their younger iterations is definitely gone.

Re: Reddit acquires ML startup Spell

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Maybe if they can just focus on making their video servers work sometime in the next decade.

For everyone nodding in agreement with this post I have a treat for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99cVnYY9Iqs

Well that explains part of it.

It does look like they plan to do something about it finally: https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/v3frc1/what_were_wo...

> Performant

> One consistent message from redditors has been that performance on the site and native apps could be better. We agree. That’s why the Reddit engineering team is working on making the Reddit platform faster and more reliable.

> A quick heads-up–this section is for engineers and robots. If you like a bit of nerdy tech talk, read on. If you don’t want to get lost in the technical details of what it takes to keep a site likeReddit running, you may want to skip ahead to the ‘Excellent’ section.

> Improving platform stability

> Last year, a major priority was improving feed load times (also known as Cold Start Latency) so that redditors could tap into their feeds and scroll through posts quickly, without waiting or watching little blue spinners tell them the page is loading. Because of those efforts, we saw drops in wait times across the board—iOS went down -11%, Android -19%, and the backend was down -25%. We also made improvements that reduced crashes and errors, resulting in a 64% reduction in downtime and a 97% reduction in background error rate.We’ll continue to invest in these sorts of latency and stability improvements, while also investing in a design system to componentize Reddit’s user interface (UI).

> Making Reddit faster, faster, faster!

> Another big factor in a webpage’s performance is how much stuff it loads. The number of requests for assets, the size of those assets, and how those assets are used are all good indicators of what sort of performance the site will generally have. Reddit’s current web platforms make a lot of requests and the payload sizes are high. This can make the site unwieldy and slow for redditors (especially in places that may already have slower internet service).

> We’ve already begun work on unifying our web (what some of you call new Reddit) and mobile web clients to make them faster, clean up UX debt, and upgrade the underlying tech to a modern technology stack. (For those interested in such things, that stack is Lit element, Web Components, and Baseplate.js. And the core technology choice is server-side rendering using native web components, which allow for faster page loads.) Stay tuned, because we’ll be sharing more on these efforts later in the year, and there’s some exciting stuff on the way.

Re: Reddit acquires ML startup Spell

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It used to be, but the push for monetization has poisoned that well. I don't know what comes after reddit but I'm keeping my eyes and ears open. Had a reddit recruiter reach out to me recently looking for engineering leadership for their upcoming product road map. What's in: ads, influencers, crypto, NFTs. What's not in: improving the core feature set of reddit like community management, curation, search, or user int…

The redesign and the complete stonewalling of it by most of the community is telling.

~4% of Redditors use old reddit. As usual, we on HN are incredibly out of touch.

Granted, 60% of mod actions are from there, but that makes sense given the lack of feature parity.

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/v3frc1/what_were_wo...

Re: Reddit acquires ML startup Spell

#70
post #29

Imagine how easy it would be to sell ads on reddit, the users self select topics. If I subscribed to r/koreancosmetics and r/makeup, do you really need ML to figure out which ads to show?

There's an old saying goes something like this "if you go to the car dealership, and all they have are station wagons, they're gonna sell you a station wagon". The ads you see on Reddit say much more about who is willing to advertise with them than anything about you . And so if you're seeing low-value ads, it's because they can't sell any high-value ones.

Why can't they sell ads?

As somewhat of an aside, I've used google ads before (small money) and found the experience to be awful. Very confusing interface and I am almost positive I was doing things wrong. I've also used Facebook and found it much better. It's weird because that's google's cash cow. Does everyone who spend real money just go through a personal broker or something or does everyone use that interface?

What drives ad spend?

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