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Internet Explorer 11 has retired and is officially out of support

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Re: Internet Explorer 11 has retired and is officially out of support

#61

As the old meme goes: Internet Explorer was the first step to downloading Chrome or Firefox on a new computer.

The large enterprise outfit I work for has 8% IE11 usage still, almost all of which is in Korea. Our customers there go out of their way to not use Edge on their machines.

Re: Internet Explorer 11 has retired and is officially out of support

#62
post #5

Does anyone work in an “enterprise” environment who have been dreading this day? Any apps / mainframes / industrials systems that needs IE to run?

We have one third party app that requires IE. I opened Visual Studio, dropped a WebBrowser control onto a form, and voila: I've got IE again, even on Windows 11. I pushed the app out and it works great. I figure we've got years until this breaks again.

Re: Internet Explorer 11 has retired and is officially out of support

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Now we have Safari...

The situation with Safari is nothing like what we had back in the IE6 days. It was like developing for multiple platforms, not just a multiple browsers. Thats not to say Safari isn’t dragging it’s heals, but it looks like Apple are finally ramping up development speed. I gather they have been expanding the Safari dev team, and the latest announcements at WWDC look really good. I actually use Safari as my primary brow…

It's not as bad in some aspects, but the iOS ecosystem is essentially another platform. My current client has an app that's built on Ionic, and the sheer amount of bullshit I've had to deal with, specific to Mobile Safari, is insane.

Re: Internet Explorer 11 has retired and is officially out of support

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Now we have Safari...

The situation with Safari is nothing like what we had back in the IE6 days. It was like developing for multiple platforms, not just a multiple browsers. Thats not to say Safari isn’t dragging it’s heals, but it looks like Apple are finally ramping up development speed. I gather they have been expanding the Safari dev team, and the latest announcements at WWDC look really good. I actually use Safari as my primary brow…

In at least one way, it's worse. You have a large percentage of users (everyone on iOS) who is stuck using a single rendering engine (Safari's) and locked out of installing another one. Although you can install Firefox, Chrome, etc on iOS, it's still Safari's webkit engine underneath.

Re: Internet Explorer 11 has retired and is officially out of support

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post #7

Having lived through the MS/IE6 era of being the monopoly web browser, and effectively determined and held back web standards for a long time, it's bittersweet that we now have Google/Chrome era. At least it's not hard wired into the OS and we're not going through another era of mega-corp hard wiring browsers into their OSes any more. Oh wait.

We have OS hardwired into browser now.

That's their point.

Re: Internet Explorer 11 has retired and is officially out of support

#66
If you have some time between two cocktails while celebrating, do your visitors a favour and add this meta tag to your :

    
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/openspecs/ie_standards/ms-i...

This will make IE very insisting to upgrade to Edge if possible.

Re: Internet Explorer 11 has retired and is officially out of support

#67
post #5

Does anyone work in an “enterprise” environment who have been dreading this day? Any apps / mainframes / industrials systems that needs IE to run?

I support an EMR running on AIX that is accessed through a Java Web applet that only works with Internet Explorer. Since you cannot install Java in any other modern browser, IE mode works on Windows 10 but not 11. The menus and setting you need to configure just do not exist in Edge and without the full Internet Options menu from IE, the site cannot load.

The vendor allegedly has an update coming soon to allow other browsers to work.

Re: Internet Explorer 11 has retired and is officially out of support

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post #55
post #7

Having lived through the MS/IE6 era of being the monopoly web browser, and effectively determined and held back web standards for a long time, it's bittersweet that we now have Google/Chrome era. At least it's not hard wired into the OS and we're not going through another era of mega-corp hard wiring browsers into their OSes any more. Oh wait.

Do you remember how we got into the IE6 situation? IE was actually very innovative, did stuff like AJAX before everyone else and the developers adopted the ways of IE. Websites did not work well on other browsers, every website had a disclaimer at the bottom: Works best in IE. Now I see similar situation with Chrome and gives me goosebumps. Some people say that Safari is the new IE but I think they got it wrong, I th…

IE6 also had the infamous ActiveX plugin architecture, which was a security hell, but were way better than Java Applets. Several pages with the "Works in IE" used ActiveX plugins

Re: Internet Explorer 11 has retired and is officially out of support

#69
post #18

Windows Server should be retired next, arguably, if MS would focus on making UI and Dev tools for Linux instead of Windows and nothing else, it will be better off.

Windows Server provides a cleaner, more enjoyable desktop experience that the desktop version.

Re: Internet Explorer 11 has retired and is officially out of support

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post #7

Having lived through the MS/IE6 era of being the monopoly web browser, and effectively determined and held back web standards for a long time, it's bittersweet that we now have Google/Chrome era. At least it's not hard wired into the OS and we're not going through another era of mega-corp hard wiring browsers into their OSes any more. Oh wait.

> At least it's not hard wired into the OS and we're not going through another era of mega-corp hard wiring browsers into their OSes any more.

Welcome to the most popular OS in the world, called 'Android'.

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