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Re: Deluge BitTorrent Client

#61

Post by wildmanx »

bartvk wrote: post #58
dewey wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In my opinion, nobody should use Deluge. That's pretty harsh for the client just not supporting one non-essential feature. Many power users of Deluge or other torrent clients run it on seedboxes where a proxy isn't needed and would also negatively impact the speed.

It's not about whether the client supports one non-essential feature or not. It's about a project that silently ignores a privacy-related setting, which then exposes the fact that people download something.

> It's about a project that silently ignores a privacy-related setting, which then exposes the fact that people download something.

Which means that everybody who either doesn't use a proxy or does not care whether it's exposed what they are downloading can happily use Deluge. Using the term "nobody" you are exaggerating quite a bit, don't you think?

Instead of complaining and demanding that others fix something for you for free who are not affected by it, please consider contributing a fix yourself.

Re: Deluge BitTorrent Client

#62

Post by dewey »

bartvk wrote: post #58
dewey wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In my opinion, nobody should use Deluge. That's pretty harsh for the client just not supporting one non-essential feature. Many power users of Deluge or other torrent clients run it on seedboxes where a proxy isn't needed and would also negatively impact the speed.

It's not about whether the client supports one non-essential feature or not. It's about a project that silently ignores a privacy-related setting, which then exposes the fact that people download something.

There's 10 comments by the main developer (Cas) on that specific issue. I wouldn't call that "silently ignores".

I support him on Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/deluge_cas) where he sometimes posts updates but it's clear that he's very busy with other things (Including going through an illness) so I'm not blaming some open source maintainer for picking up a 10 year old, apparently hard to reproduce issue with a total of 45 comments.

The client can be used just fine, except for a small buggy behaviour in case if you are using a proxy which likely isn't used by the majority of users.

Re: Deluge BitTorrent Client

#63

Post by wildmanx »

HideousKojima wrote: post #17

Deluge still hasn't had an official Windows release for 2.x, and it's been that way since 2019. Been using qBittorrent for a while now and like it far more than the (currently outdated) version of Deluge I had been using. Not really sure why this was posted here to be honest.

> Deluge still hasn't had an official Windows release for 2.x, and it's been that way since 2019.

This is GPL software made by people in their free time, for free. Apparently, the intersection of "people who want a Windows release", "people who have the skill to do it" and "people who want to do it for free" is empty. If you belong to all 3 groups, then please go ahead and provide a Windows release. If you don't then I'm not sure what you are complaining about. That nobody is providing something to you for free that you need?

Re: Deluge BitTorrent Client

#64

Post by smcl »

dewey wrote: post #62
bartvk wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not about whether the client supports one non-essential feature or not. It's about a project that silently ignores a privacy-related setting, which then exposes the fact that people download something.

There's 10 comments by the main developer (Cas) on that specific issue. I wouldn't call that "silently ignores". I support him on Patreon ( https://www.patreon.com/deluge_cas ) where he sometimes posts updates but it's clear that he's very busy with other things (Including going through an illness) so I'm not blaming some open source maintainer for picking up a 10 year old, apparently hard to reproduce issue with a t…

The application lets you configure a proxy, and then does not use the proxy. It ignores the proxy configuration without informing you. It silently ignores it. No amount of comments in a bug tracker changes that.

Re: Deluge BitTorrent Client

#65

Post by [deleted] »

bartvk wrote: post #45

In my opinion, nobody (edit: who values their privacy) should use Deluge. There's an issue where proxy settings are ignored: https://dev.deluge-torrent.org/ticket/2149 It's been open since 10 years, and this is not a great situation for a torrent client. Where torrents are concerned, proxies are explicitly used to protect privacy. Even in this very topic, someone said they were happy with the SOCKS proxy option in De…

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Re: Deluge BitTorrent Client

#66

Post by SahAssar »

Galanwe wrote: post #56
bartvk wrote: post #45

In my opinion, nobody (edit: who values their privacy) should use Deluge. There's an issue where proxy settings are ignored: https://dev.deluge-torrent.org/ticket/2149 It's been open since 10 years, and this is not a great situation for a torrent client. Where torrents are concerned, proxies are explicitly used to protect privacy. Even in this very topic, someone said they were happy with the SOCKS proxy option in De…

Out of curiosity, which feature of the client uses HTTP? I thought BitTorrent was a protocol on top of e.g. TCP, is it carried inside HTTP by some clients?

Some trackers use http (if you look at a magnet link and see `&tr=http://mytracker.net`), and webseed uses http: https://www.bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0019.html

Re: Deluge BitTorrent Client

#67

Post by unethical_ban »

wildmanx wrote: post #63
HideousKojima wrote: post #17

Deluge still hasn't had an official Windows release for 2.x, and it's been that way since 2019. Been using qBittorrent for a while now and like it far more than the (currently outdated) version of Deluge I had been using. Not really sure why this was posted here to be honest.

> Deluge still hasn't had an official Windows release for 2.x, and it's been that way since 2019. This is GPL software made by people in their free time, for free. Apparently, the intersection of "people who want a Windows release", "people who have the skill to do it" and "people who want to do it for free" is empty. If you belong to all 3 groups, then please go ahead and provide a Windows release. If you don't then…

It's nice to get the old slashdot vibe of "it's open source, any complaint is invalid, learn programming and GUIs and fix it yourself".

Re: Deluge BitTorrent Client

#68

Post by my80thaccount »

bartvk wrote: post #45

In my opinion, nobody (edit: who values their privacy) should use Deluge. There's an issue where proxy settings are ignored: https://dev.deluge-torrent.org/ticket/2149 It's been open since 10 years, and this is not a great situation for a torrent client. Where torrents are concerned, proxies are explicitly used to protect privacy. Even in this very topic, someone said they were happy with the SOCKS proxy option in De…

This is a really bad look, but I would think that if opsec is important to you, you won't have your proxy configuration in application level settings of a Python app. I think the people who would be concerned about this use system wide VPNs or seed boxes.

Re: Deluge BitTorrent Client

#69

Post by Fnoord »

wildmanx wrote: post #61
bartvk wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not about whether the client supports one non-essential feature or not. It's about a project that silently ignores a privacy-related setting, which then exposes the fact that people download something.

> It's about a project that silently ignores a privacy-related setting, which then exposes the fact that people download something. Which means that everybody who either doesn't use a proxy or does not care whether it's exposed what they are downloading can happily use Deluge. Using the term "nobody" you are exaggerating quite a bit, don't you think? Instead of complaining and demanding that others fix something for…

You can route a BitTorrent client through a VPN. I do this with Docker + rtorrent + Wireguard. I agree silently ignoring proxy setting is not cool but assuming it is used for privacy reasons is a stretch. I'm glad it avoids people route Deluge data through Tor though that also would not be the sole purpose.

Re: Deluge BitTorrent Client

#70

Post by my80thaccount »

bartvk wrote: post #58
dewey wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In my opinion, nobody should use Deluge. That's pretty harsh for the client just not supporting one non-essential feature. Many power users of Deluge or other torrent clients run it on seedboxes where a proxy isn't needed and would also negatively impact the speed.

It's not about whether the client supports one non-essential feature or not. It's about a project that silently ignores a privacy-related setting, which then exposes the fact that people download something.

I think they're ignoring it because in practice it is not much of an issue.
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