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Re: Apple Music is the most buggy and annoying software I use

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wfhordie wrote: post #51
eloisius wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That higher royalty isn’t because of altruism. It’s probably a factor of licensing volume.

Comments like this one are a real puzzler to me. Why does it matter that the higher royalty is not out of altruism? It’s money! Money doesn’t care. More money for artists is good. You can’t buy a cheeseburger with altruism. I guess I’m just not sure what sort of “gotcha” this is supposed to be. The beauty of incentive alignment is that you don’t have to waste your time trying to discern nebulous motivations of large…

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Re: Apple Music is the most buggy and annoying software I use

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Post by matheusmoreira »

ysleepy wrote: post #15

The one thing that sours the entire experience for me is that songs take like 5-15s to start playing when selecting one that isn't super popular. This happens on my ipad, mac, android phone. It feels like some server is spinning up a hard drive to stream it. Apart from that, why the hell is the title and artist only shown in one line that starts scolling instead of showing multiple lines if it doesn't fit, at least i…

These streaming platforms are so bad. We had better software in the 90s and 00s. These trillion dollar corporations can't beat literally decades old technology. The only reason these little services even exist in the first place is to satisfy the whims of copyright monopolists. How many more steps backwards must this industry take before they're satisfied?

Re: Apple Music is the most buggy and annoying software I use

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Post by tannhaeuser »

Yeah iTunes used to be a real shitshow, having accumulated anything related to iPhone sync mgmt, media player, and a browser ofc. Then the Apple Music player came as an improvement, but still wtf: the workflow to play a title is like, search it, then wade through the results to get at your local copy (as opposed to titles on the store), then click it to arrive at the album where Apple Music doesn't select the damn title but the first of the album/collection, then browse through the possibly large list (have to select list view first) to locate it, then finally play it, if I recall correctly. If your music collection is large and/or on multiple volumes and/or copied from older or others systems, there are additional fuckups.

We're always making fun of that at a die-hard Apple fanboy friend of mine. To add insult to injury, Apple Music is gender-mainstreamed in German (should be a config option IMO).

But give it time; Apple is certainly able to get it right eventually. Other players have degraded as well IMHO.

Re: Apple Music is the most buggy and annoying software I use

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Post by [deleted] »

ushakov wrote: post #24
edhelas wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've borrowed hundreds of CD from the different public-city-libraries I've been the past 15 years. In France you're allowed to make private copy of books and CDs :)

in Germany if you try to do this, lawyers will show up immediately at your doorstep and will treat you like a criminal

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Re: Apple Music is the most buggy and annoying software I use

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Post by xattt »

tannhaeuser wrote: post #63

Yeah iTunes used to be a real shitshow, having accumulated anything related to iPhone sync mgmt, media player, and a browser ofc. Then the Apple Music player came as an improvement, but still wtf: the workflow to play a title is like, search it, then wade through the results to get at your local copy (as opposed to titles on the store), then click it to arrive at the album where Apple Music doesn't select the damn ti…

> But give it time; Apple is certainly able to get it right eventually

For one version. Then, some hot-head new grad will come in and make it whatever UX fashion of the week will be and screw it up for another 5 years.

Re: Apple Music is the most buggy and annoying software I use

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Post by pschuegr »

ravenstine wrote: post #57
aniforprez wrote: post #16

How are first party Apple apps so horrible on first party hardware? I don't use Music but I decided to check out Severance (great show) and the TV app was absolutely horrible to use in every way. The player would only stream some really low resolution on my monitor so I tried downloading the episodes and the whole app lagged so badly every time I would queue something up or delete it. It even completely stopped strea…

Because Music is anything but "first party" from Apple's perspective. A lot of people seem to have the wrong idea about Apple's software, with the exception of macOS. The point of the software is to entice the customer with a complete ecosystem. Once they've sold you their laptop they've made their money. At that point, they're not that interested in putting resources towards things like Music when their hardware con…

Exactly, Apple is a hardware company with software as a loss leader.

Apple TV is pretty bad. I can't recall ever using it without a freeze or a crash. It's embarrassing for a company with the amount of money Apple has.

This is the reason why I'm bought into the Google ecosystem. I would say that Google is the least bad at software of any of the major tech companies. I would probably use Chromebooks if I could get proper drivers for my beloved RME hardware.

Re: Apple Music is the most buggy and annoying software I use

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Post by activitypea »

I love Apple Music for its live radio and curator roster, but the app is shockingly poor. On an iPhone 12 Pro, every single screen shows me multiple spinners for up to a second, like every UI component is a separate webview. On MacOS, the spinners regularly persist for over a second. It's unbelievable to me that Apple execs are okay with this.

Re: Apple Music is the most buggy and annoying software I use

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Post by ninth_ant »

ravenstine wrote: post #57
aniforprez wrote: post #16

How are first party Apple apps so horrible on first party hardware? I don't use Music but I decided to check out Severance (great show) and the TV app was absolutely horrible to use in every way. The player would only stream some really low resolution on my monitor so I tried downloading the episodes and the whole app lagged so badly every time I would queue something up or delete it. It even completely stopped strea…

Because Music is anything but "first party" from Apple's perspective. A lot of people seem to have the wrong idea about Apple's software, with the exception of macOS. The point of the software is to entice the customer with a complete ecosystem. Once they've sold you their laptop they've made their money. At that point, they're not that interested in putting resources towards things like Music when their hardware con…

You’re re-treading an old line of argument that doesn’t make sense anymore especially in this context. Apple has identified services as an area they went to grow.

Music is an ongoing subscription service, with plenty of competition. If they want to retain or grow their paying subscribers Apple needs to improve their software with the same attention to quality they devote to hardware.

Re: Apple Music is the most buggy and annoying software I use

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Post by matheusmoreira »

mr_sturd wrote: post #58
matheusmoreira wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you get local network streaming to work well? Player takes over one second to respond when I try to control the streaming from my phone. Works perfectly except for this high latency issue.

What are you using for network streaming? SnapCast is great for that - there's a delay, but only about .5s. On the home network, that is.

I configured it years ago with the built-in HTTP streaming feature. I have an android application that supports it.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Music_Player_Daemon/Tips_an...

It appears the latency issues have been well documented by now.

Re: Apple Music is the most buggy and annoying software I use

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Post by JimBlackwood »

I switched from Spotify to AM and I still wouldn’t switch back.

There’s some weird bugs for sure and the lack of switching between devices is annoying. Sometimes I’ll accidentally leave it running in my laptop and then when I’m on my phone it keeps interrupting for some reason.

Their shuffle actually shuffles, it’s not just the same 20 songs.

Artist matching is weird though. Frequently I’ll have an artist that songs attributed to them that are from a different artist with the same name. You could now check the electronic artist Danger (songs like 11:02) and see some weird new Russian rap song attributed to him as a “Single”. It’s not his song but it ends up in my NEW MUSIC MIX. I had it with artists like SIERRA and ALEX too. Incredibly annoying.

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