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Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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I am almost surprised it took this long to get to this point, but I suppose the recent resignation wave made it into a viable product offering. My last MBA class was HR analytics class that, among other things, dealt with email sentiment analysis and stuff like that. Part of me was thinking average HR person won't touch this stuff, but if a company just happened to offer something that would do it for them..

Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

#62

So, now we can't use Teams to have the "water-cooler" moments that supervisors claim we need, but really we are having them on Signal or IOS and they just can't measure that. Organizations really, really, really hate transparency.

They don't want you shooting the shit with company communications mediums because that has limited upside and much less limited potential downside. Remember the famous "will the atom bomb test ignite the atmosphere" gentleman's bet those scientists had? Nobody actually thought it would but they discussed it semi-seriously. Today discussing some fanciful bad outcome like that (be it the mundane failure to deliver a pr…

The conversations will happen elsewhere and so will the relationships. Management is locking themselves out from the team leaders and suddenly those off site 'adult kerfuffles' are exactly the conversation you needed to hear to prevent exodus.

Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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post #32

The only way this sort of thing changes is with labor organization ie unionization. The government won’t save you from efforts like this. The government represents the interests of the capital owning class. The demonization of unions is one of the most successful cases of propaganda in the last century. It’s gone so far s people who will die on the hill of Jeff Bezos paying slightly more taxes because everyone seems…

> The demonization of unions is over the most successful cases of propaganda in the last century

Ever notice how unions are somehow all the same entity, and seem to have to answer for things completely different unions in completely different industries did?

Nobody treats corporations this way, even though (if you look at interlocking BoD membership) there's a more reasonable case to be made for collusion in some industries...

Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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Anyone else miss Office 97? You just installed it locally off a disc and it just worked when you needed it. You didn’t even need internet.

Office 97 and Windows XP was something of a high point in personal computing. The internet has enabled entirely new product categories, but it has also badly eroded old ones with the solvent of MRR greed. Merely selling a thing just ain't good enough, especially if it's software. Even offline applications are SaaS, now, where the "service" are frequent updates that leave you at the perennial mercy of every company from which you purchase software (and every company with which they do business, recursively). I'm normally pretty sanguine about business models, but when I lay it out like this, I find it quite disturbing.

So I won't think about it.

Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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Anyone else miss Office 97? You just installed it locally off a disc and it just worked when you needed it. You didn’t even need internet.

Not really. Office suites were a mistake. Return to text editor.

Imagine a world with something markdown-like instead of Word...

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post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll happily use an old Office, just please splice in the "What do you want to do?" search bar so I don't have to hunt through nested menus/ribbons for some obscure formatting option I use once every 6 months.

LibreOffice is actually pretty great, it's not "run on a Pentium 100 MHz" fast but it's stable and works well for basic office spreadsheet/word processing/powerpoint tasks.

It works well until you need to send and receive documents from MS Office organizations. LibreOffice mangles layouts and formatting in DOCX and PPTX files.

Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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post #32

The only way this sort of thing changes is with labor organization ie unionization. The government won’t save you from efforts like this. The government represents the interests of the capital owning class. The demonization of unions is one of the most successful cases of propaganda in the last century. It’s gone so far s people who will die on the hill of Jeff Bezos paying slightly more taxes because everyone seems…

>The only way this sort of thing changes is with labor organization ie unionization.

>The government won’t save you from efforts like this. The government represents the interests of the capital owning class.

You realize that the power/existence of "labor organization ie unionization" is dependent on the government? Without government protection labor unions don't stand a chance.

Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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post #32

The only way this sort of thing changes is with labor organization ie unionization. The government won’t save you from efforts like this. The government represents the interests of the capital owning class. The demonization of unions is one of the most successful cases of propaganda in the last century. It’s gone so far s people who will die on the hill of Jeff Bezos paying slightly more taxes because everyone seems…

>think they’ll be Jeff Bezos one day.

I see that phrase thrown around a lot. It's a variant of "you're never going to be a billionaire (so you shouldn't be against X)." Why do people assume that you have to think you'll be a billionaire to be against something that would affect billionaires negatively? Is something only wrong if you think you'll find yourself in that position one day?

Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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post #32

The only way this sort of thing changes is with labor organization ie unionization. The government won’t save you from efforts like this. The government represents the interests of the capital owning class. The demonization of unions is one of the most successful cases of propaganda in the last century. It’s gone so far s people who will die on the hill of Jeff Bezos paying slightly more taxes because everyone seems…

Emacs would never spy on you like that, would it?

Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you've ever thought your employer isn't monitoring the chat then you're a fool. Mine doesn't. I know that because I am the 365 admin.

> ... I am the 365 admin. For now. Remember MS can literally run these tools on your communications and if/when something gets flagged... raise it out-of-band to a senior business person at your company for follow up. They likely have the contact details for senior business people at your company already. ;)

This is quite an imaginative take.
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