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Kagi search and Orion browser enter public beta
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Re: Kagi search and Orion browser enter public beta
#62Founder here, it was quite a journey very excited to be launching beta today with payments. The idea of paying for web search was unimaginable three years ago when we started this. AMA!
Point of feedback for your consideration, I was surprised that Orion+ did not include source code. Binary-only releases seem to me an enemy of both privacy and tinkering, and represent a showstopper for the (admittedly likely quite narrow) segment of possible customers I personify. Open source is mentioned aspirationally in the FAQ; however, I don't personally need a FOSS license, just an individual right to read, modify, and rebuild for personal use, and that's something I value - as in, willing to pay for.
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#63Founder here, it was quite a journey very excited to be launching beta today with payments. The idea of paying for web search was unimaginable three years ago when we started this. AMA!
Thanks for making this Vlad! I’ve been testing it out for the last few months and it’s really coming along. As a developer who used the old Kagi.com before you bought it, I’m curious about what inspired you to pick that particular domain? Did you know Kee?
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#64Been using Kagi for a few months now and, unlike when I used DDG, it's rare that I feel the need to fall back to Google. I guess now is where we see if Kagi's model can actually work. Will people pay money for a search engine when all other major players in the space don't transact with users in cash? I definitely hope for their success!
My experience matches yours. When I was using DDG, it was mostly sufficient. I'd fall back on Google a few times a month.
I haven't yet done that with Kagi.
I just entered my CC details into Kagi (using Orion, natch). I hope more people follow suit. I really want this model to succeed.
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#65I remember when Kagi.com was a payment platform, one of the earliest ones and the first one I used back in the day. Great guys, too bad they've been shafted hard by a dishonest customer. Feels a bit weird to see the name used by a search engine now.
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#66Been in the beta for quite a while now and have been thoroughly impressed. Very, very rarely do I have to fall back to Google search (mostly for image search, which can occasionally be a little lacking in Kagi).
$10 isn't a small hurdle to get people over, but I really hope you can make it work; I'd love for Kagi to succeed.
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#67I switched to Kagi, mostly to experiment. Had used Google for years, DDG for a while, Brave more recently.
Now I miss Kagi whenever I don't have it. It's boring in the best possible way. Looking forward to paying for it so it'll stick around.
Congratulations Kagi team!
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#68Founder here, it was quite a journey very excited to be launching beta today with payments. The idea of paying for web search was unimaginable three years ago when we started this. AMA!
Any plans to revisit the pricing? I've in the Kagi beta for months and it's way better than DDG, but it's hard to justify US$120/year when Google is free.
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#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah I like Kagi but $15AUD is a bit steep for a subscription (for any software / SaaS), I think $10AUD would make more sense here. Still, it's a great product.
Even a gym membership?
Ha, I was trying to debate the cost of paying 10$ a month for a subscription like this, and this might have changed the way I look at it. As a developer I wasn't thinking about "how much I am willing to pay for it and how much use I get out of it", I was thinking from a "how much does it cost Kagi" perspective.
I do not care much about ads or privacy from Kagi (I use adblock + I won't use kagi for private searches). But I think the features just make it worth it.
Re: Kagi search and Orion browser enter public beta
#70Founder here, it was quite a journey very excited to be launching beta today with payments. The idea of paying for web search was unimaginable three years ago when we started this. AMA!
Any plans to revisit the pricing? I've in the Kagi beta for months and it's way better than DDG, but it's hard to justify US$120/year when Google is free.
For certain definitions of “free”
spending time scrolling to try and find where the ad results end and my organic results begin is one thing that feels very un-free