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I was blackmailed – any YouTuber could be next (2020)

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Re: I was blackmailed – any YouTuber could be next (2020)

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It's been done as a trolling technique for ages.

But now it seems like there's more criminal profit potential in extortion, as creators are ever more dependent on ever-more-centralized services. A growth industry!

> as creators are ever more dependent on ever-more-centralized services.

as creators decided to make themselves ever more dependent on ever-more-centralized services.

Re: I was blackmailed – any YouTuber could be next (2020)

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Someone is repeatedly filing “Circumvention of Technological Measures” claims, then asking for bitcoin and Twitter promotion in return for stopping the claims.

What is to stop them once they get paid? Why wouldn't they just keep asking every month?

Nothing. This is why you don't negotiate with these kinds of people.

Re: I was blackmailed – any YouTuber could be next (2020)

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I would encourage anyone who thinks along these lines to read the following posts on Techdirt, which explain why this is not the solution people think it is. https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/26/this-is-really-really-du... https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/23/11th-circuit-disagrees-w... https://www.techdirt.com/2021/06/08/conservatives-want-commo... Something should be done to ward off the Kafkaesque future we are head…

That last article equates merely seeing content on the internet you'd rather not with "harm" and it is impossible to take seriously as a result. Additionally, there is a very simple solution to this problem, and it uses tech every social network in the world already has: categorization, as used when determining which ads follow which content. As to the first amendment concerns, OK. We tie the section 230 protections…

>These companies are not good faith actors. It is time to stop treating them as such.

I thought I made it super clear, but to make it even more super duper clear; I agree. What we have now isn't working.

However, I don't think common carrier status is the appropriate or effective way to go about making changes. And I think the articles I posted are a good (mainly, they are convenient and the first two are timely) introduction to why I believe that.

Re: I was blackmailed – any YouTuber could be next (2020)

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The author doesn't indicate what the supposed violation was. Does Google not even say which part of the content was alleged to be the problem?

Most of the time, no. This is common to prevent people from abusing the system more by trying to find edge cases.

Probably cheaper too.

Re: I was blackmailed – any YouTuber could be next (2020)

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Maybe these blog posts are the real support queue. Queue is prioritized by creativity, publicity, and connections to employees. It feels like the official support queue points to /dev/null with a couple chat bots for plausible deniability.

It feels like that? How many support requests does Google have right now do you think? They're cutting

Re: I was blackmailed – any YouTuber could be next (2020)

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post #61
post #25

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But now it seems like there's more criminal profit potential in extortion, as creators are ever more dependent on ever-more-centralized services. A growth industry!

> as creators are ever more dependent on ever-more-centralized services. as creators decided to make themselves ever more dependent on ever-more-centralized services.

As a creator you've got to meet the audience where they are. The problem is the monopoly position of those services, and the anticompetitive practices they're able to follow as a result (e.g. banning creators from broadcasting the same content through multiple channels).

Re: I was blackmailed – any YouTuber could be next (2020)

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If I'm understanding the attack correctly, its surprising there is not more along these lines - specifically the "trigger big tech company's automate banning against someone" attack. It wouldn't be surprising if this is fairly easy across a variety of "services"

It's just a less lethal form of SWAT'ing, which has been done. "Trigger a response targeted at the person I'm attacking frome someone or something stronger than I or them ..."

It's kinda like a DoS amplification attack, but amplifying authority instead of bandwidth.

Re: I was blackmailed – any YouTuber could be next (2020)

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> I think two people searching for the same terms should see the same results I agree, but that's not the point being stated. The point is that the entire concept of Google is about ranking (a form of discrimination) the relevancy of websites to the search query. Common carrier status means that a search for "Microsoft official website" would not be able to prioritize Microsoft's official website, because that would…

>>I think two people searching for the same terms should see the same results >I agree, but that's not the point being stated. I mostly agree, but I can see where being located in completely different locales might lead to slightly different results without nefarious intent.

>I mostly agree, but I can see where being located in completely different locales might lead to slightly different results without nefarious intent.

Sure, I can get on board with some niche cases where tailored results are non-nefarious and beneficial to the end user.

And that sort of hammers my point further, as common carrier status would make discrimination based on location a potential lawsuit.

Re: I was blackmailed – any YouTuber could be next (2020)

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post #25

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But now it seems like there's more criminal profit potential in extortion, as creators are ever more dependent on ever-more-centralized services. A growth industry!

> as creators are ever more dependent on ever-more-centralized services. as creators decided to make themselves ever more dependent on ever-more-centralized services.

Creators don’t control where the audience is. If there was a credible alternative to the centralized services, then maybe more creators would try that.

Nebula is one example where some of the more education-focused channels have been posting videos. Not sure if it’s been successful though.

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