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Related issue I hadn't thought of before: what happens if the flag is changed? Suppose it partly depends if the unicode description is 'flag of the country blah' or blazon-style description of what it looks like.
The Afghan flag has this exact problem now. Plus the political issue of recognizing or not the Taliban government
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#62I just use the control-space keyboard shortcut, I get a big popup in the middle of the screen showing the currently selected keyboard map.
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#63Indeed. That is a pain in the backside…
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#64I 100% applaud this. I've always used ABC Extended because I thought a flag in the system menu was gaudy and weirdly nationalistic. I know I live in the US and use the American English keyboard layout. Similarly, I don't need a Chinese flag every time I switch to a Chinese keyboard.
I don’t see a Chinese flag… where are you seeing this? There are a ton of different Chinese input methods and they all have a symbol which is white text on a gray background. Same as Japanese.
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#65Flags are not the way to define a language preference. This design decision assumes 1:1 parity with flag and language which is just not true. This move makes language preferences less ambiguous or potentially less offensive and I applaud Apple for doing it.
Note that for many languages a flag is not displayed rather a symbol. Chinese languages in particular follow this (拼 for simplified pinyin, 注 for traditional zhuyin). Also Japanese never displayed a flag (あ for hiragana, ア for katakana). I think it's better to follow this convention.
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#66Flags are not the way to define a language preference. This design decision assumes 1:1 parity with flag and language which is just not true. This move makes language preferences less ambiguous or potentially less offensive and I applaud Apple for doing it.
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#67In Ukraine this matters for a lot of people. Half if not the majority of ukrainians are russian-speaking and confusing russian language with russia is not something we like.
What I don't understand is why Apple cannot simply make this a toggle option in settings somewhere. No, it has to work one way and one way only...
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#69I don't really see how having "EN" instead of a US or UK or whatever flag is really going to make people happier or sadder.
Flags are powerful symbols for many people, some of which probably proudly displayed their respective one in the menu bar as a matter of virtue.
Or I wonder if this has to do with the Taiwan flag or lack thereof.
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#70Flags are not the way to define a language preference. This design decision assumes 1:1 parity with flag and language which is just not true. This move makes language preferences less ambiguous or potentially less offensive and I applaud Apple for doing it.