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Plane accidentally flew around the world (2018)

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Re: Plane accidentally flew around the world (2018)

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"After the war it was sold to Universal Airlines but was damaged in a storm and ultimately salvaged for parts." - "December 7, 1941 and the First Around-the-World Commercial Flight". Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum. December 8, 2011.

A sad end for what could have been preserved for history. It's a crying shame isn't it?

Is the history in the artefact or the story?

Re: Plane accidentally flew around the world (2018)

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I am kinda sad that the Brazillian part in that story is how they forced them to stay because of Yellow Fever, but then they stole stuff from inside the plane... The saddest part of this, is that I am not even surprised :( As Brazillian I deal all the time with online distrust with Brazillians, and often when people explain why they distrust us, I can't fault them, there are even online games where Brazillians have t…

Was that in the linked article? Or did you read that somewhere else?

Re: Plane accidentally flew around the world (2018)

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I am kinda sad that the Brazillian part in that story is how they forced them to stay because of Yellow Fever, but then they stole stuff from inside the plane... The saddest part of this, is that I am not even surprised :( As Brazillian I deal all the time with online distrust with Brazillians, and often when people explain why they distrust us, I can't fault them, there are even online games where Brazillians have t…

Well, don’t read too much into that. There are rude people everywhere. From what I know, Brazil produces high-quality software developers/computer scientists (elixir and Lua come from Brazil). Of course there are big social issues in Brazil but… aren’t there in all western countries? Poverty, unemployment, violence (maybe Brazil is an outlier in this case), etc.

From where I come from, ie russians have much worse reputation online in general than brazillians (this was pre-ukraine war). I wouldn't read too much into that

Re: Plane accidentally flew around the world (2018)

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Would someone kindly explain why this is considered round the world? I see a gap between NYC and SF…

They went the "long way around". As a flying boat their operations are centered on the oceans, not land. This route operated over the Pacific Ocean. So going through Africa to reach NYC is "around the world". In fact the crossing of Africa was itself harrowing because they had limited places to "land".

Plus I'm guessing the plane eventually made its way back to the west coast.

Re: Plane accidentally flew around the world (2018)

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to be honest your post sounds a lot like some Egyptians I know who seem compelled to apologize for the endemic tourist scams, bribery/shakedowns/corruption, unethical taxi drivers, sexual harassment etc in Cairo.

If I were Egyptian I would apologize for those folks. Is that bad?

Yes? You are not Egyptian. And one Egyptian should not be forced in any way to apologize for others Egyptians.

Re: Plane accidentally flew around the world (2018)

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I am kinda sad that the Brazillian part in that story is how they forced them to stay because of Yellow Fever, but then they stole stuff from inside the plane... The saddest part of this, is that I am not even surprised :( As Brazillian I deal all the time with online distrust with Brazillians, and often when people explain why they distrust us, I can't fault them, there are even online games where Brazillians have t…

As others said, the fact is that scumbags exist everywhere, and Brazil is certainly not exempted from this. Another fact is that Brazil is obscenely huge. The country is almost the size of Europe, and the number of online Brazilians nowadays is probably larger than some European countries' entire population. So, given that the ratio of scumbags is probably and roughly the same for every country in the world, the chance of anyone running into a scumbag Brazilian online is naturally larger than average, which tricks our biased brains into believing that "whoa, Brazil must be filled with scumbags".

And of course, the notoriously pervasive "stray dog syndrome", a sentiment that every Brazilian thing is inferior than its imported counterpart (including manufactured goods, culture and whatnot), and which is hammered into the unconscious mind of 11 out of 10 Brazilians from a very young age (myself included), only helps strength this confirmation bias.

Re: Plane accidentally flew around the world (2018)

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I am kinda sad that the Brazillian part in that story is how they forced them to stay because of Yellow Fever, but then they stole stuff from inside the plane... The saddest part of this, is that I am not even surprised :( As Brazillian I deal all the time with online distrust with Brazillians, and often when people explain why they distrust us, I can't fault them, there are even online games where Brazillians have t…

A lot of people dismissing your concerns as "bad eggs everywhere". I appreciate you speaking out against this.

Apologizing on behalf of others is a valid signal towards properly judging individual motives vs cultural influence. I do not want to be too quick to blame someone for acting distrustful if they grew up in a very distrustful environment / culture.

Re: Plane accidentally flew around the world (2018)

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If I were Egyptian I would apologize for those folks. Is that bad?

Yes? You are not Egyptian. And one Egyptian should not be forced in any way to apologize for others Egyptians.

I am an American and I feel the urge at times to apologize for other Americans.

Especially when I am traveling abroad. We can be quite bad tourists.

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