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Tailscale raises $100M

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Re: Tailscale raises $100M

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Post by gowld »

capableweb wrote: post #13

> We’re here to fix the Internet That's such a broad "mission statement" that I wonder if it's effective at all. I mean, what SaaS wouldn't say that they fix something with the internet? That's to whole reason for online businesses solving one or another problem. How could that statement help them guide their implementations of various solutions?

The internet, at its essence, means connecting machines aross (intra)networks. Not everything those machines do. That's what Tailscale (+wireguard) is for.

Re: Tailscale raises $100M

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Post by nikanj »

Lightbody wrote: post #23
pilif wrote: post #9

With such a huge investment comes the obligation to eventually pay it back. Is this another one of my favourite tools going the way of Dropbox, 1Password and all other companies that were formed around what should be a platform feature, which took on way too large investment sums and were eventually forced to become the everything, losing sight of their core values? I sincerely hope not, but there's so much bad prece…

I haven't really felt like 1Password's product materially strayed from the original mission. If anything, I'm even more delighted with the team functionality, shared vaults, quick keyboard access in 1Password 8, etc. I wouldn't put them in the Dropbox bucket. Also, I think the value Tailscale provides is fairly unique and far from obviously a platform feature like file storage and perhaps even password management.

It's been [0] days since the last time 1Password randomly bombarded me with a "Upgrade to 1Password subscription today" dialog. Not talking about the banner in the corner of the app. this was a dialog that had to specifically be dismissed

Re: Tailscale raises $100M

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Post by YPPH »

pilif wrote: post #9

With such a huge investment comes the obligation to eventually pay it back. Is this another one of my favourite tools going the way of Dropbox, 1Password and all other companies that were formed around what should be a platform feature, which took on way too large investment sums and were eventually forced to become the everything, losing sight of their core values? I sincerely hope not, but there's so much bad prece…

How has 1Password lost sight of its core values?

Perhaps you refer to loss of local vaults? If so, they were never really a viable option for me - I needed the app syncing across multiple devices, including mobile, and doing so with a third party sync solution wasn't suitable.

Re: Tailscale raises $100M

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Post by fwip »

Lightbody wrote: post #17

We love Tailscale. Everyone employee has it, and we use it to provide access to dev, staging, and prod environments as well. Fun little thing we did with it: nobody can access the prod network without requesting access via a Slack bot (powered by https://indent.com/ ). So somebody requests access, another authorized person approves it, and the Tailscale ACLs are updated for X minutes and then reset. Access to secure…

That's gonna be exciting next time Slack is down.

Re: Tailscale raises $100M

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Post by cassianoleal »

throwaway92394 wrote: post #26

Am I the only one that has an issue with a VPN that I can't self host? Presumably if Tailscale get's PWN'd or subpoenaed then your network is breached no?

You're certainly not the only one. There is headscale [0] if you're worried about that though.

[0] https://github.com/juanfont/headscale

Re: Tailscale raises $100M

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Post by Spivak »

legalcorrection wrote: post #57
yrro wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tailscale is one of the ways you can restore the end-to-end connectivity principle that IP introduced and that NAT destroyed.

This is kind of overstated. Even if everyone went IPv6 and gave every device a public IP address, pretty much every network would have a firewall that behaved just like NAT.

Yeah, no one is going to allow unsolicited inbound connections even without NAT so you still have to have something to hook up the two ends in a P2P setting.

Re: Tailscale raises $100M

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Post by jclardy »

newhouseb wrote: post #7

Tailscale is my favorite (product) discovery of 2022. I initially set it up to use as a VPN to get around a misbehaving corporate firewall and accidentally realized it solved a whole bunch of other problems I didn't realize I had. Usually a new product doesn't even live up to the intended use case and so TS is really anomalous IMHO in how good it is. - SSH'ing into a raspberry pi I have at home that does random IoT s…

Same here - I've found a ton of uses, for one I can now access my Home Assistant instance without actually exposing it to the internet. Same for the linux VMs I run via ESXi on the same Intel NUC. I can also access my QNAP NAS without exposing that to the internet which is huge given how many vulnerabilities have been found with it.

It actually allows me to turn my iPad Pro into a proper development machine as long as I have access to the internet since I can write code locally via Textastic, push to my git repo and test via the VM connected to Tailscale. Of course this was possible with a box on DigitalOcean but I prefer not to pay monthly for a machine just for noodling around.

Re: Tailscale raises $100M

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Post by rcfox »

aaronax wrote: post #52

I have heard of but never really looked in to Tailscale until today. I'm not impressed. "Fixing the Internet" is not done by layering more private network garbage on top of it. Their claim[0] that after you install Tailscale on all your devices: "This final configuration is called 'zero trust networking',” is pretty interesting. It seems this would be more like having a trusted internal network (sure it is overlaid o…

"Don't like entities abusing their power over you? Just change the laws that allow them to do that!" What.

Re: Tailscale raises $100M

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Post by throwaway894345 »

xyzzy_plugh wrote: post #37
Lightbody wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven't really felt like 1Password's product materially strayed from the original mission. If anything, I'm even more delighted with the team functionality, shared vaults, quick keyboard access in 1Password 8, etc. I wouldn't put them in the Dropbox bucket. Also, I think the value Tailscale provides is fairly unique and far from obviously a platform feature like file storage and perhaps even password management.

Indeed, 1Password is practically a utility at this point, as far as I'm concerned. I really like the direction they're heading and they're solving some pretty tricky problems without compromising on security, predominantly in the enterprise domain. The experience is the same regardless of whether you're an enterprise user or a personal or family user. It's polished enough that my grandma can use it.

Fully agree. I'm a very happy 1Password customer, and I rarely praise software.

Re: Tailscale raises $100M

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Post by Thaxll »

aaronax wrote: post #52

I have heard of but never really looked in to Tailscale until today. I'm not impressed. "Fixing the Internet" is not done by layering more private network garbage on top of it. Their claim[0] that after you install Tailscale on all your devices: "This final configuration is called 'zero trust networking',” is pretty interesting. It seems this would be more like having a trusted internal network (sure it is overlaid o…

> Get rules/laws implemented that prohibit that

You know this does not work in the real world right?

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