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Khan Academy launches Khan World School online high school

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Re: Khan Academy launches Khan World School online high school

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The concept of an online high school may sound terrible, but sooner or later it’s bound to happen: quality education will keep consolidating until there’s one super school left. Outlier is doing the same thing but on the college level: why deal with a mediocre local math teacher if you can get taught by the best?

That's already the case today if you are not in a very good sector, at least in France and Switzerland.

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I am looking forward to the day, when quality formal education is available online to all which you may complete at your own pace instead of going with a strict semester and class system. Also, along with offline schools for supporting social learning and helping classes which require offline components like labs, in person support classes, interest based study groups etc.

My school made foreign languages completely unappealing to me by teaching them in the most dull, tick-box way possible in a school where even the top set contained pupils who massively cut into teaching time by behaving like animals, if you've ever seen the UK series The Inbetweeners my school was basically that but with grotty 1950s asbestos-chic buildings that hadn't really been upgraded since they were built. I thought I hated learning languages and promptly forgot the little I learned, but online learning at my own pace rather than a hastily thrown-together timetable with a course that's not being disrupted by constant piss-takers is a completely different experience. I've started learning French and the experience is night and day.

I can't help but feel very let down by my state education experience, it feels like British state schools are a uniform Ford-esque production line that takes children as an input, utterly breaks their spirit, and produces a docile blue-collar workforce that doesn't really ask questions as an output. Private schools on the other hand actually seem to set their pupils up for life rather than simply being a cog.

Re: Khan Academy launches Khan World School online high school

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I am looking forward to the day, when quality formal education is available online to all which you may complete at your own pace instead of going with a strict semester and class system. Also, along with offline schools for supporting social learning and helping classes which require offline components like labs, in person support classes, interest based study groups etc.

How exactly is what you’re describing going to work logistically?

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Although this will provide highest quality of academic curriculum, the remote only high school also has disadvantages. Being with peers in a physically colocated space is critical for kids to learn social skills that are equally important as academic skills. Being able to have a hybrid model of teachers or volunteers who can drive these interactions in small physical groups will provide the best experience.

My instinct is to agree. However it depends on the kind of world that we're actually building. If the future is more: remote working controlled/elective social interactions only strong online communities disconnected from their immediate physical community Then perhaps those offline social skills will be a positive distraction!

Schools are more than just for a career. They are one of the foundation pillars on which our kids character and future are shaped. You can't teach empathy online. They learn when they see their friends breakdown in their arms after first breakup. They learn about bonding when they experience win or lose together arm in arm. As I said, online can teach everything intellectual but hardly anything emotional.

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And we all know the best way to learn about how to deal with people is putting them in a group of incompatible people in a high-stress, prison-like environment. What could possibly go wrong? As long as high schools are facilities that push some people to extreme actions I think the 'social education' you would get there is too expensive for society as a whole.

I find that your first paragraph is very negative and has an insular posture. Dealing and managing with other people who are incompatible with your ethics and morality is an important skill to learn. Not only does it help you learn asseriveness and diplomacy it also allows one to gain an insight into your own personal bias and teaches you how to respond and not react. A lot of grown, so called 'adults' still need to…

Yeah I definitely remember everyone learning to be diplomatic in high school. /s

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There was an essay recently on HN on the merits of individual tutoring for children, in the spirit of Renaissance aristocrat education (not the exam-prep style tutoring that is common today). Projects like Khan Academy could make this extremely resource-intensive style of education a bit more accessible (not on their own maybe, but as a building block).

Edit: PS: just remembered, if there were orgs like Khan or other leaders in online learning that managed to become accredited by established programs like the International Baccalaureate, that could be very interesting for students, as it offers practically universal global recognition (as well as a very well-regarded curriculum).

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And we all know the best way to learn about how to deal with people is putting them in a group of incompatible people in a high-stress, prison-like environment. What could possibly go wrong? As long as high schools are facilities that push some people to extreme actions I think the 'social education' you would get there is too expensive for society as a whole.

I find that your first paragraph is very negative and has an insular posture. Dealing and managing with other people who are incompatible with your ethics and morality is an important skill to learn. Not only does it help you learn asseriveness and diplomacy it also allows one to gain an insight into your own personal bias and teaches you how to respond and not react. A lot of grown, so called 'adults' still need to…

I love how you bring up diplomacy. It brings up all kinds of associations, good old Clausewitz not being the least of them when you consider what else happens at schools.

Re: Khan Academy launches Khan World School online high school

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The Kahn Academy is boring online trash dressed up with famous media hype, and this sounds like more of the same. They seem to have anti-learned the lesson from the year* of pandemic online school: So, that was terrible, let’s do more if it and make it sound like a 6 hour straight zoom meeting isn’t everyone’s worst nightmare.

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Because there’s more to high school than just classes. It’s important to learn how to deal with people as well. A purely virtual high school experience sounds extremely lonely and thin for the soul.

The minute I found out I could work, and go to a Communty College, instead of going to high school I thought I won the lottery. Long story short my high school allowed gave credit for working, and going to a Communty College. Once I got to the CC it was relief. My classmates were a lot older, but that was great. Their was no BS. I made great friends. I didn't like high school much. I was respected because I was a goo…

So many high schools are dysfuntional I was able to get my son into Cc for the last two years of high school. Made a huge difference in his life.
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