Buying Twitter is probably an easy way to get that Twitter account tracking his airplane to be closed down
Personally, I am seeing this a potential way to limit the freedom even more on Twitter than already happening.
Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private
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#62I don't have an opinion over the consequences for politics over this, I'm just excited over the potential shakedown of the social media landscape that I grew to despise. Musk is an activist, can make it or break it. He is absolutely right over its enormous potential, all the problems it has - as a business or ones it creates for the society - can be solved. Free speech absolutism is possible and is beneficial once yo…
> Free speech absolutism is possible and is beneficial
The jury is out for me, how can we say it's automatically beneficial if it's not sacred and only a mean to an end for society/people, that end depending on your views (GDP, happiness, sustainability...)?
Also IMHO like any liberal absolutism, the forces will inevitably make who has the more money own and game the system, it's a proxy for Oligarchy. It can be good but only under certain philosophical positions and economic theories that not everyone agree on.
Re: Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private
#63How did it actually get to the situation that none of the Twitter co-founders have any significant ownership?
Re: Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private
#64It’s interesting to contextualize this with a regular persons life. This amount will present about 1/7 of his net worth. However unlike a traditional purchase this will be n investment and depending on how it goes, he can get even more money. If an average person had a max net worth of 3 million this would be like them deciding to buy a 400K investment property, or a laundry mat. That aside, this is also a great exam…
400k is an insane amount for a laundry mat
Re: Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private
#65Buying Twitter is probably an easy way to get that Twitter account tracking his airplane to be closed down Personally, I am seeing this a potential way to limit the freedom even more on Twitter than already happening.
Lol. There will be about 99 new accounts sharing the same information, since ADS-B data is public information.
Re: Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private
#66The title of this should be changed to the title of the article, "Elon Musk Makes $43 Billion Unsolicited Bid to Take Twitter Private".
The current title given here implies that Musk is likely to take over Twitter, which doesn't seem true after reading the article (which includes a quote about the proposed price being too low to be taken seriously).
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#67> Free speech absolutism is possible and is beneficial I don't think we have evidence to support this. Pursuant to the last major thread on the topic, I was thinking further about it, and realized that the vast majority of progress civilization has made has been under conditions much more regulated in terms of which ideas may propagate. We've never had a situation where fake news can and does spread the way it does t…
> the vast majority of progress civilization has made has been under conditions much more regulated in terms of which ideas may propagate.
Lots of good things have happened in spite of bad conditions that hampered progress. These bad conditions have often revolved around a lack of freedom of expression, especially in the modern era, where this has been extensively documented.
For example, there has historically been intense stigma for expressing skepticism of the local religion, and scientists have famously suffered for it. Should we bring that back as well, since most progress has been made under such conditions?
If not, why? Do you like today's authorities better than those of centuries past?
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#68> Free speech absolutism is possible and is beneficial I don't think we have evidence to support this. Pursuant to the last major thread on the topic, I was thinking further about it, and realized that the vast majority of progress civilization has made has been under conditions much more regulated in terms of which ideas may propagate. We've never had a situation where fake news can and does spread the way it does t…
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Re: Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private
#69I think social media is a real negative force in the world and welcome this as potentially a way to make it better, or at least destroy Twitter and remove one outlet.
I don’t think public companies can reform social media because it’s too profitable. As a private company it may be possible to reform it to still be profitable, but not in a way that harms people.
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#70Interesting if he manages to take over twitter. For me Twitter has become full of people marketing themselves with lists, tweets that don't make sense out of context, replies full of bile or inane comments and animated gifs. But I'm not convinced Musk's opinions of what is good for twitter is aligned with other content creators and consumers. Paypal, Tesla, SpaceX, Boring Company have clear goals - twitter is quite d…
I feel like most people must use Twitter wrong. Despite how common a criticism it is, your description is not even remotely my experience.
I don’t know why. Maybe most users follow people who they like or respect or think are good people not people who share content they care about or write interesting original tweets? Maybe they think the only recourse to not liking what they see on their timeline is to complain and wish people were better rather than unfollow? Or maybe some whole major topics/spheres of interest are just entirely toxic to the core.
Twitter is incredibly valuable to me as a source of news, insight, and discussion on a wide range of topics (from programming to space to politics to skiing and more). It’s been nothing short of revolutionary for my consumption of news and information.
Twitter is actually better than RSS (though I do miss RSS being a thing) at what RSS was designed for, because curating your follows can give a better signal to noise ratio than taking everything from a given site, AND gives you a wider range of sources because you don't personally need to discover a source to see articles from it.
It also provides for some excellent debates, discussion, and interactions between really smart people.
I do agree with Elon though. The direction of the product is poor and there are many baffling decisions. It sometimes seems like Twitter themselves don’t even know why their product is valuable or what it’s potential really is.
I’d love to see some really radical changes. The kind that might not work and could be the end of Twitter if they fail. I’d love to see Twitter become really open, even open source, become a federated network, integrate privacy and anonymity tech, etc.
We don’t know his plans and I doubt it’ll happen, but Elon is one of the few people who has demonstrated willing to risk everything on an outcome he thinks is important. I hope this is one of this cases, and his instincts are at least reasonable.