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What’s new in Emacs 28.1?

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Re: What’s new in Emacs 28.1?

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Post by pen2l »

rayiner wrote: post #56
pen2l wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you using viper or evil-mode often (or some other thing which gives emacs vi bindings, I think there are a couple)? Because navigating text with emacs gives me the emacs pinky, I'm wondering how folks deal with that. Transposed cpslck with ctrl?

No. In my youth I just played through the pain, but I recently just ordered this: http://xahlee.info/kbd/xbows_keyboard_review.html

Fair (though I recommend you give kinesis a try: https://kinesis-ergo.com/keyboards/advantage360/ ).

Separately, I just want to throw it out there, you guys should try sublimity: https://github.com/zk-phi/sublimity

Particularly, the minimap is awesome because it provides an intuition about where one is and that just feels nice.

Re: What’s new in Emacs 28.1?

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Post by chrisfinazzo »

klik99 wrote: post #37

> Adding right-click context menus is a natural extension to Emacs’s already-extensive support for the mouse (even if a lot of people don’t use it.) If emacs could support plan9 acme-style chords with custom commands then I'd probably use the mouse a lot more in it - acme convinced me that mousing around can be just as fast as being on the keyboard if the UX is well designed.

Is mouse-mouse enabled by default?

Can the insertion point be moved by clicking in a particular location?

As of recent versions of macOS, emacs isn't included by default. Last I tried, in terminal-mode emacs, the answer to the above questions seems to be no - with no reasonable explanation why this is the case.

I'm more than willing to do everything else from the keyboard, but these are basic oversights that have yet to be corrected.

EDIT: Is mouse-tracking actually the feature that enables this behavior?

Re: What’s new in Emacs 28.1?

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Post by tored »

ilovecaching wrote: post #45
almost wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who uses Emacs for (almost) all my editing needs and has done for about 17 years I just don’t understand how you can have these beliefs. LSP-mode is great and now with things like Spacemacs and Doom Emacs getting setup and getting things reasonably configured is a lot easier. But still! VSCode is pretty cool and is easy to use right out of the box. It does some things with ease that would be very hard with…

It amazes me there are Emacs users that don’t understand the importance of free software. You’re using the editor devised by the free software foundation, but you only want to talk about convenience. Convenience is not an excuse to switch to corporate made closed source spyware.

The largest spy organisation in the world, Google, uses mostly free software.

Re: What’s new in Emacs 28.1?

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Post by jaster »

jonnycomputer wrote: post #57
jaster wrote: post #38

I have been testing Emacs 28 for a few weeks now, as it was reported to improve performance on LSP integration (which was sometimes sluggish for me with rust). I have to say I wasn't disappointed. It's now comparatively blazingly fast. I hugely recommend to give it a try if you work in emacs with LSP. Since my distro had not packaged it yet, I installed it from guix instead (package `emacs-next`). It worked like a ch…

emacs-next is how you installed lsp? I tried installing a lsp package at some point, but I couldn't figure out if it was actually doing anything over and above the language major modes. Not sure if it was actually doing anything at all actually.

Sorry, to clarify: I used the package `emacs-next` from guix to install emacs 28. You still need to install and configure emacs-lsp along with the LSP backend(s) you want to use.

I'm currently using the doom-emacs "emacs distro" (https://github.com/hlissner/doom-emacs), so doom is taking charge of setting up emacs-lsp for me.

Re: What’s new in Emacs 28.1?

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Post by jawilson2 »

Ensorceled wrote: post #26
ilovecaching wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jetbrains products are only partially open source, which makes them non-free and still spyware due to telemetry we can’t see.

Do you have a reference for "Jetbrains products are ... spyware due to telemetry we can’t see."

It is packed in a small teapot orbiting the sun somewhere between Earth and Mars.

Re: What’s new in Emacs 28.1?

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Post by seanw444 »

rayiner wrote: post #55
iib wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You may want to try using DavMail [1] for interfacing with Outlook. It is a reverse-proxy for email, so it talks to Outlook, and then mu4e can talk to DavMail directly. [1] http://davmail.sourceforge.net/

How the hell did they break email? You need a browser with JS to log into your email server?

Isn't 2022 wonderful?

Re: What’s new in Emacs 28.1?

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Post by tored »

ilovecaching wrote: post #5

It amazes me that developers pick closed source Jetbrains and Microsoft spyware for the program they rely on to make a living when Emacs and Vim/Neovim get better by leaps and bounds every year. Emacs has packages that VSCode can only dream of having and with Emacs distributions or really just lsp-mode you can have a full fledged IDE with 0 fiddling. I recently did some digging into the editor usage of noteworthy pro…

I remember when one of my first professional mentors jokingly said that all those years spent in university was to write your own .emacs file so you had one when your career started. He was a bit shocked that mine was almost empty.

Re: What’s new in Emacs 28.1?

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Post by jaster »

chrisfinazzo wrote: post #62
klik99 wrote: post #37

> Adding right-click context menus is a natural extension to Emacs’s already-extensive support for the mouse (even if a lot of people don’t use it.) If emacs could support plan9 acme-style chords with custom commands then I'd probably use the mouse a lot more in it - acme convinced me that mousing around can be just as fast as being on the keyboard if the UX is well designed.

Is mouse-mouse enabled by default? Can the insertion point be moved by clicking in a particular location? As of recent versions of macOS, emacs isn't included by default. Last I tried, in terminal-mode emacs, the answer to the above questions seems to be no - with no reasonable explanation why this is the case. I'm more than willing to do everything else from the keyboard, but these are basic oversights that have yet…

emacs "gui" perfectly supports the mouse out of the box.

For use in a terminal (after using both for some time, I find the gui version better tbh), see https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Te...

Re: What’s new in Emacs 28.1?

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Post by anthk »

rayiner wrote: post #17

I was an Emacs user back in my software writing days, but I thought I had left it behind when I became a lawyer. Over the past month or two however I’ve moved more and more of my workflow over to Emacs. I started with using Org Mode and PDF tools for note taking and reviewing PDFs and task management: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30492373 . More recently I switched my email over to mu4e: https://www.emacswiki…

Did Emacs solve their freezing issues on background I/O?

Re: What’s new in Emacs 28.1?

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Post by AlexCoventry »

epolanski wrote: post #3

OT for this particular release, but I'd like to point out that one of the best features of emacs and its ecosystem is that plugins, libraries and software are almost always self-documenting. You want to read the documentation or delve into the implementation of a feature of your programs it is literally right there in your editor instead of having to jump to some, potentially outdated, website documentation or having…

This is the culture in golang, too, and it's great.
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