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Germany has seized control of Gazprom Germania

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Re: Germany has seized control of Gazprom Germania

#62

I hope I one day get to visit a Russian nationalized McDonalds; just to fully grasp what deglobalization means ...

Currently it's probably the same stuff as the original McDonalds. Eventually the quality will deteriorate due to lack of supervision - unless Russians will do an equal job in supervising, which I doubt.

>Eventually the quality will deteriorate

What quality? Even in Austria, at some really busy McD's I've been to like the train station or airport, their finished burgers looked nothing like the ones in the menu.

Often they had components like the cheese, lettuce and sauces missing and I got just a dry paddy between two barren pieces of bread as a burger lol. It was uneatable so I had to throw it away and buy a sandwich from the SPAR next door which has much better quality.

The McD's I've had in NY weren't much better either.

OTOH, McCafe's in Europe (the separate establishment, not to be confused with the coffee you can get from McD's) are amazing, coffee is always great, on par with even fancy hipster cafes and their pastry and cakes aren't bad either.

Re: Germany has seized control of Gazprom Germania

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> energy independence We use LPG gas (from a tank buried at the bottom of the garden) feeding a gas boiler to heat our house. I'm all for energy independence, and would love to switch to a more environmentally-friendly energy source, but I'm deeply concerned about how much this will cost me, and even if I did have the money, based on reports in local media, getting a heating engineer in would take many months. Half a…

That's interesting, so the tank is permanent and you refill it somehow? If yes, how often? Can you do the same thing with natural gas? Does the place you live in have natural gas?

It depends on the heating need and size of the tank.

In the US, there is nothing unusual about a 1,000 gallon tank that you might fill twice a year.

Re: Germany has seized control of Gazprom Germania

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I hope I one day get to visit a Russian nationalized McDonalds; just to fully grasp what deglobalization means ...

Currently it's probably the same stuff as the original McDonalds. Eventually the quality will deteriorate due to lack of supervision - unless Russians will do an equal job in supervising, which I doubt.

This depends on how much has been sourced locally before and how much has been sourced from the US.

Like buns and meat and so could be sourced locally. But spice (mixtures) may have been imported and the mixture recipe is locally unknown.

Re: Germany has seized control of Gazprom Germania

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> energy independence We use LPG gas (from a tank buried at the bottom of the garden) feeding a gas boiler to heat our house. I'm all for energy independence, and would love to switch to a more environmentally-friendly energy source, but I'm deeply concerned about how much this will cost me, and even if I did have the money, based on reports in local media, getting a heating engineer in would take many months. Half a…

That's interesting, so the tank is permanent and you refill it somehow? If yes, how often? Can you do the same thing with natural gas? Does the place you live in have natural gas?

Not your parent poster, but the tanks are commonly installed above-ground in the rural USA. It is propane (C3H8), which is liquid under pressure. Tanks are refilled as needed depending on usage via a tanker truck. I assume this is monthly but I don't personally have one.

In the US, natural gas normally refers to methane (CH4) heating, attached to a city methane heating grid. I pay a monthly bill per cubic foot of methane burned. Currently my water heater and furnace are methane. I live near Kansas City.

Re: Germany has seized control of Gazprom Germania

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> Germany is now in the "early warning phase" of its energy emergency plan, I’m not sure what the levels are, seems like they’d be at a higher level since the flows could stop at literally any time since they refused Putin’s decree to pay in rubles.

No, Putin backed down on that one. It's not over yet but Russia doesn't want to turn the taps off by itself. It needs the money too badly (what do you think is propping up the Ruble) and also they need some deniability, some excuse, because if they turn it off unilaterally, it's hard to see it coming back on, at least not under the same circumstances

Re: Germany has seized control of Gazprom Germania

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This doesn't make sense to me. Can i get an explanation? The German state seized a local German branch of the Russian Gazprom company. In order to secure its energy supplies... which come from Russia. Are they in essence capturing some reserves?

That company owned pipelines and storage tanks within Germany, thus controls the flow of gas after reaching Germany.

To expand on this: much of the distribution infrastructure within Germany is owned by Gazprom. For example, there's a very large natural gas storage capacity within Germany, but a significant portion of that is owned by, you guessed it, Gazprom. There's broad consensus that, if all of the storage infrastructure were topped up, Germany would be able to make it through _next_ winter reasonably well, even if Russia stopped delivering gas. However, currently the storage capacity is at around 30%, which is insufficient. This move would imply that the German government is taking action to force the distribution infrastructure to be more resilient against the contingency that Russia (through one means or another) stops delivering gas.

It's also worth pointing out that there's been some evidence suggesting that, in the weeks and months leading up to the Russian invasion of the Ukraine, the "fill level" of the Russian-owned storage infrastructure within Germany was decreased, which would both be a way for Russia to attempt to leverage gas delivery against sanctions (in other words, blackmail), as well as yet another strong indication that the invasion was a deliberate Russian aggression planned well in advance.

If you're interested in more and understand German, I'd recommend the most recent episode of Lage der Nation, which talks about this at much more length: https://lagedernation.org/podcast/ldn284-ukraine-krieg-6-woc...

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