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Re: MDN Plus

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Post by nightski »

paxys wrote: post #51
nightski wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's my point. I'd rather donate and just have the money go towards improving the free content instead of them wasting time on email notifications and useless stuff like that. It feels like my money is being wasted when really I just wanted to support the wiki.

You could always have been donating already then. This is for people who may need these features and so start paying money when they weren't before.

There is no way to donate to MDN directly. You can only donate to the Mozilla charitable foundation which is not related to MDN.

Re: MDN Plus

#62

Post by cnasc »

geodel wrote: post #55
reitanqild wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't say that I think but I am tempted to pay anyway. The big question is: Does the money go to Firefox or to funny projects and (what I consider) insane exec salaries?

What is that insane salary? Seems you have no idea about how much executives are paid at that level in general. Or for Mozilla everyone has to work for free?

Does Mozilla pay their software developers an industry-standard TC?

Re: MDN Plus

#63

Post by dend »

This is an interesting take on documentation - mainly because I fail to see the value proposition in paying for the functionality provided.

Speaking from my own experience:

- Notifications. I am not sure that I've ever needed to know when a doc is updated, because if there is anything radical coming on the market (or in a spec proposal), there are other avenues to find out about it.

- Collections. That is already a functionality in the browser that is not locked into just one documentation site.

- Offline mode. There is Zeal[0] if you like client-side software and devdocs.io[1] if you like browser mode.

Combine all that with the fact that it's just for MDN, and the appeal kind of disappears. YMMV, of course.

[0]: https://zealdocs.org/

[1]: https://devdocs.io/

Re: MDN Plus

#65

Post by danShumway »

reitanqild wrote: post #44
jefftk wrote: post #3

Everyone who's been saying "I wish they would just charge money for this", here's your chance to put your money where your mouth is!

I didn't say that I think but I am tempted to pay anyway. The big question is: Does the money go to Firefox or to funny projects and (what I consider) insane exec salaries?

Hopefully it goes to MDN. I do wish there was a way to fund Firefox directly, but I hope that MDN plus resources are for MDN, not Firefox.

Re: MDN Plus

#66

Post by jacekm »

I like the idea! While I do not need these premium features I wanted to hit the "sign me up" button instantly just to support them. But then I found out that there's no such button and my country is not on going to be supported anytime soon.

And if MDN people are reading this: consider adding an "enterprise" option with centralized account management.

Re: MDN Plus

#67

Post by _jal »

reitanqild wrote: post #44
jefftk wrote: post #3

Everyone who's been saying "I wish they would just charge money for this", here's your chance to put your money where your mouth is!

I didn't say that I think but I am tempted to pay anyway. The big question is: Does the money go to Firefox or to funny projects and (what I consider) insane exec salaries?

> Does the money go to Firefox or to funny projects and (what I consider) insane exec salaries?

Serious question: do you ask other vendors (Google, Amazon, Wapo, whoever) you use about HR and internal budgeting choices before deciding to do business with them?

Re: MDN Plus

#68

Post by ralmidani »

geodel wrote: post #55
reitanqild wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't say that I think but I am tempted to pay anyway. The big question is: Does the money go to Firefox or to funny projects and (what I consider) insane exec salaries?

What is that insane salary? Seems you have no idea about how much executives are paid at that level in general. Or for Mozilla everyone has to work for free?

Nobody said anyone has to work for free. In general (not picking on Mozilla), I think it’s hypocritical when non-execs are told they should accept lower pay than they would make at a for-profit because “our mission!”, while execs justify their out-of-proportion pay by citing how much they could make at a for-profit. Shouldn’t executives be __more__ committed to the mission?

Re: MDN Plus

#69

Post by gjsman-1000 »

_jal wrote: post #67
reitanqild wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't say that I think but I am tempted to pay anyway. The big question is: Does the money go to Firefox or to funny projects and (what I consider) insane exec salaries?

> Does the money go to Firefox or to funny projects and (what I consider) insane exec salaries? Serious question: do you ask other vendors (Google, Amazon, Wapo, whoever) you use about HR and internal budgeting choices before deciding to do business with them?

If they were nonprofits working for the good of humanity, and yet had exponentially increased their executive salaries over the last five years while market share went down, then yes.

Re: MDN Plus

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Post by kaycebasques »

dend wrote: post #63

This is an interesting take on documentation - mainly because I fail to see the value proposition in paying for the functionality provided. Speaking from my own experience: - Notifications. I am not sure that I've ever needed to know when a doc is updated, because if there is anything radical coming on the market (or in a spec proposal), there are other avenues to find out about it. - Collections. That is already a f…

Re: notifications I think it's a smart move. Back when I was content lead for https://web.dev I was floating around ideas along the same lines. Web developers learn of great new feature X and are disappointed to learn that it's only supported on a single browser. They then forget about the feature for years even though in the meantime it has been implemented on all their target browsers. Notifications of some sort solves this problem. I agree however that whether people will pay for this feature is debatable. Browser vendors should be incentivized to provide this feature for free somehow because it's in their own best interest to increase adoption of new web platform features.
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