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Re: Teclis – Non-commercial web search

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Lots of great new search engines popping up that search the rest of the web that Google tends to ignore. Other ones worth checking out include: - https://search.marginalia.nu/ (A non-commercial search engine) - https://wiby.me/ (Tends to have those really weird and cool indie sites) - https://searchmysite.net/ (An index of personal websites) - https://indieweb-search.jamesg.blog/ (Search IndieWeb websites) - https://…

Curious as to how these engines accept new sites into their ranks. A big problem most of us have had is spammy results outranking everything else by building large, fake networks of sites that boost each other's rankings via interlinking. Many of the higher end networks are undetectable, as they have legitimate content and never link to more than 1 other internal site (among a mix of external sites, some affiliated w…

One approach is to have human testers. When a low quality site gets high rank, you investigate in detail how that happened and downrank the linking sites.

It shouldn't be that hard to find the bad network if you're systematically investigating all the time. Google has people testing search results often.

The problem is that this is fairly expensive. But quite possibly not the largest cost a search engine would have.

Re: Teclis – Non-commercial web search

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I hate to say it but for "best laptop" I'd rather get a typical SEO affiliate result than a 4 year old article talking about why they think MacBooks from 10 years ago were the best laptop. The fact is "best laptop" is what's called a commerical intent query where people are looking to make a purchase. They want recent results and recent products, not informational articles

Yeah, "best laptop" seems a strange search phrase to list as the first example for this engine. "best laptop 2022" does return a couple of results, both of them at least somewhat useful (Consumer Reports and PCWorld).

> The fact is "best laptop" is what's called a commerical intent query

However, there's a place for a search engine that doesn't see it as one - there've been quite a few times when I was trying to research a topic, when the search engine assumed it was a commercial intent query and made it almost impossible to get the historical view I needed from the search.

Re: Teclis – Non-commercial web search

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Hey all - creator here. It looks like next page of results does not work currently because wrong query param (should be "q" instead of "topics"). Easy enough to manually change if you need it. As a few of you noticed, narrow searches do not work very well because this is not a general web search engine and has a tiny index compared to Google. Use Teclis to discover more about a broader topic you are interested in and…

I was a little surprised to see Fandom.com results come up in one of my test searches, given that they are notorious for being very far from "clean" (I counted 25+ uBO blocked when checking the page in Vivaldi, which is far above the threshold of 5 mentioned on your page). Might be worth looking at in more detail.

Also, Marginalia Search link on front page is broken.

Re: Teclis – Non-commercial web search

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Lots of great new search engines popping up that search the rest of the web that Google tends to ignore. Other ones worth checking out include: - https://search.marginalia.nu/ (A non-commercial search engine) - https://wiby.me/ (Tends to have those really weird and cool indie sites) - https://searchmysite.net/ (An index of personal websites) - https://indieweb-search.jamesg.blog/ (Search IndieWeb websites) - https://…

I think this is among the more complete lists: https://seirdy.one/2021/03/10/search-engines-with-own-indexe...

I was thinking of making a small site showcasing indie search engines or small search engine projects ig

Re: Teclis – Non-commercial web search

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Lots of great new search engines popping up that search the rest of the web that Google tends to ignore. Other ones worth checking out include: - https://search.marginalia.nu/ (A non-commercial search engine) - https://wiby.me/ (Tends to have those really weird and cool indie sites) - https://searchmysite.net/ (An index of personal websites) - https://indieweb-search.jamesg.blog/ (Search IndieWeb websites) - https://…

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Re: Teclis – Non-commercial web search

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* Fun Challenge Find a query that has only one result in Teclis! Then read that page. I think found one but failed to read that (which?) page. http://teclis.com/search?q=sysadmin+horror+stories

It wasn't hard. My second query "minecraft speedrun" had 1 result.

That's another way of asking same question, I have chosen the one I would like to hear:)

Re: Teclis – Non-commercial web search

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this is among the more complete lists: https://seirdy.one/2021/03/10/search-engines-with-own-indexe...

I was thinking of making a small site showcasing indie search engines or small search engine projects ig

Wish someone would meta search these search engines

Re: Teclis – Non-commercial web search

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post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was thinking of making a small site showcasing indie search engines or small search engine projects ig

Wish someone would meta search these search engines

There's fairly aggressive bot activity when you run a search engine, which is why many of us are behind cloudflare or similar bot-mitigation services.

Best guess is the bots are attempting to manipulate Google or Bing's suggestion algorithms this way (since a lot of small search engines are basically just forwarding results from bigger engines). Unfortunately they can be very aggressive to the point of almost bringing down your service. I saw up to 30k searches per hour before I cried uncle and got behind cloudflare.

I do offer an API, and I suspect some others in the indie search space might as well (or might at least be willing to set one up). That way I can rate limit on a per-consumer basis without affecting everyone.

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