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AEG combi microwave unusable after update: device thinks it is a steam oven
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Re: AEG combi microwave unusable after update: device thinks it is a steam oven
#62We’re inching ever closer to the day when HTTP 418 is no longer a joke.
Hackers took down some Russian military sites, including the main one (.mil) subdomain and made them return the 418 I'm a Teapot error.
It has double meaning in Russian because чаиник (chaynik) - Russian for teapot is also slang for a fool, a newbie, inexperienced, dumb.
Re: AEG combi microwave unusable after update: device thinks it is a steam oven
#63I wonder how many €0.01 per unit they saved by not having enough storage to keep the old firmware version while they loaded the new one?
>I wonder how many €0.01 per unit they saved by not having enough storage to keep the old firmware version while they loaded the new one? You're maybe joking, but when I worked in automotive, they really worked hard to save 2mm in length of a thicker copper wiring inside the ECU to save maybe a cent. No joke. Unless you're in the high margins league of Nvidia, Apple, etc, the rest of the HW industry is insanely price…
Reminds me of the documentary of how the wah-wah pedal was invented.
Apparently Warwick Electronics told one engineer to swap out an On/Off switch with a turn knob because these cost 0.25$ per piece instead of 1$. Which was huge savings in the 60s.
While experimenting, the engineer, who was also a guitarist, found that it sounds really cool to play while you turn the knob.
The director wanted to sell these knobs to jazz orchestras and big bands for the trumpeters, but the engineer was like "Hold on a second, I think we can put this in a pedal and make it a guitar thing".
Re: AEG combi microwave unusable after update: device thinks it is a steam oven
#64I refuse to own an oven that is internet connected. If my oven has enough of a computer to have a firmware that can be updated remotely, it is too dangerous to own.
I have a dozen or more devices that can burn down my house (or kill me in other interesting ways) connected to the internet because I am confident in the precautions taken by the engineers who designed them and mitigating the “hacker” threat model is mostly already addressed by precautions already taken to mitigate failing (“rogue”) controller boards present in their non-internet connected counterparts through 30+ ye…
The issue is that hardware interlocks might at some point be replaced with software interlocks, if they haven't already. See the Therac-25 incident for a concrete example.
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#65Why in the world would one connect a microwave to the Internet in the first point?! (I guess that's the way they received the wrong update...)
To preheat before you get home, or to make sure the oven is off after you've left. https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00049148/ With AEG's app, you can find a recipe and the app will automatically set the temperature and cooking time for you.
Hmmm, I've never considered pre-heating a microwave; I thought it wasn't necessary, because the food would be heated using - um - microwaves. I must have been missing a trick.
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#66On my oven I want a knob. That's it. I'll light it with a match. Presently have those lighting spark things on my 5 year old samsung. Already failures. No, I do not want networking, apps, wifi, touchscreens or any form of digitality. This shit is glitter for the "technologically educated" class. Turning a $1 tshirt into a $10 tshirt
My old range had two pilot lights under the cover, when the knob allowed gas to flow - the pilot ignited the burner. No electronics and no matches!
Unfortunately, there were 4 knobs - so you wouldn't be interested.
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#67Electrolux are a horrible company. They seem to have borged a whole load of other brands, which all have now descended to Electrolux's abysmal standards. - They don't support their own products; the warranty is served by a third-party - Their products are built to a price-point, and fail just after the warranty is up - Spare parts are expensive - They apparently have neither an email address or phone number The water…
They supply white label items to Ikea too, at least in parts of Europe.
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#68A microwave with identity crisis
Re: AEG combi microwave unusable after update: device thinks it is a steam oven
#69> "An employee manually entered a wrong number somewhere, causing an incorrect update. As a result, all combi microwaves of this type no longer work in the Benelux," says a spokesperson for the umbrella company Electrolux. All????? They didn't roll out the release gradually? Holy hell.
>They didn't roll out the release gradually? Holy hell. Have you looked at dev wages for appliances? That explains everything in short. Everything has to be done for the cheapest price in the shortest amount of time. Fractions of cents are cut in every directions when possible. So when you're operating dev teams on shoe string budgets under constant crunch, there's no talent nor resources for sane management, dev and…
Makes you wonder why they don't take it to the extreme and remove the computer entirely.
Re: AEG combi microwave unusable after update: device thinks it is a steam oven
#70I refuse to own an oven that is internet connected. If my oven has enough of a computer to have a firmware that can be updated remotely, it is too dangerous to own.
I have a dozen or more devices that can burn down my house (or kill me in other interesting ways) connected to the internet because I am confident in the precautions taken by the engineers who designed them and mitigating the “hacker” threat model is mostly already addressed by precautions already taken to mitigate failing (“rogue”) controller boards present in their non-internet connected counterparts through 30+ ye…
Compared to 'the internet' electricity is pretty predictable.