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Re: Lapce – Fast open-source code editor

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Post by tormeh »

dzhou121 wrote: post #41

Author here. Thanks for all the feedback. I'm aware that Lapce lacks lots of basic stuff. It's a personal project so the initial set of features and key bindings are tight to my personal preferences. I'm currently working on the missing pieces, like multi cursor support(in master but not released yet), mouse support, sane default key bindings(probably I'll stick to an existing editor), basic UX etc. Feel free to subm…

First thing I tried was ctrl+shift+f to grep through a project, which didn't work. I see the functionality is there, though. Both Intellij and vscode uses this shortcut, so harmonizing with them would be nice. Also the code completions are not clickable with a mouse, and using the "down" key also doesn't do anything.

Anyway, development-wise these are minor issues in a project of this size. Nice work!

Re: Lapce – Fast open-source code editor

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Post by bennyp101 »

chimen wrote: post #53
pkolaczk wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sublime success shows people do need those 0.01 seconds saved (well, actually it is often not just 0.01 seconds, but a lot more - VS Code is sometimes laggy and that's really annoying).

Sublime got completely destroyed in a single year by...an electron app (VSCODE). Chew on that. While at it I'm going to let you know why: features, open platform, plugins, ecosystem and integration. I've been a Sublime user and now I don't even have it installed any more. They share the same fate with TextMate.

That seems like a big statement, I still use ST - albeit not for everyday work (I shifted to JetBrains tools), but if I want to knock up a quick script then I will > subl file.ext to quickly knock something up.

If I have big files to open, or I want to do some text manipulation, then ST is what I reach for.

"Completely destroyed" is a bit much, maybe shifted to a different use-case for some people, but for a quick editor that offers a pretty damn good environment to work in I think it still has its place.

Re: Lapce – Fast open-source code editor

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Post by foxhill »

chimen wrote: post #53
pkolaczk wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sublime success shows people do need those 0.01 seconds saved (well, actually it is often not just 0.01 seconds, but a lot more - VS Code is sometimes laggy and that's really annoying).

Sublime got completely destroyed in a single year by...an electron app (VSCODE). Chew on that. While at it I'm going to let you know why: features, open platform, plugins, ecosystem and integration. I've been a Sublime user and now I don't even have it installed any more. They share the same fate with TextMate.

ok, i’m glad you’ve found an editor that better suits your needs. remember, this is a preference, not a competition. personally, i much prefer the responsiveness & lower memory footprint of sublime, and couldn’t tolerate trading those off for features in atom/code.

maybe this is just the new vim/emacs war :)

Re: Lapce – Fast open-source code editor

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Post by brainwipe »

pjmlp wrote: post #52
thejosh wrote: post #34

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I think that Visual Studio has it on the right hand side by default, but that's the only editor I can think of that does it.

Nowadays, Visual Studio on the old days had it on the left by default. Actually I don't remember any longer when they changed, maybe VS 2010 WPF rewrite.

IIRC they brought it into line with the old SQL Server Management Studio (SSMS), which always had the explorer on the right.

Re: Lapce – Fast open-source code editor

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Post by qwertox »

dzhou121 wrote: post #41

Author here. Thanks for all the feedback. I'm aware that Lapce lacks lots of basic stuff. It's a personal project so the initial set of features and key bindings are tight to my personal preferences. I'm currently working on the missing pieces, like multi cursor support(in master but not released yet), mouse support, sane default key bindings(probably I'll stick to an existing editor), basic UX etc. Feel free to subm…

Off Topic: https://www.lapce.dev has a certificate issue. Also, the editor does not seem to run on Windows 7 ("createpseudoconsole could not be located" in KERNEL32.dll)

Re: Lapce – Fast open-source code editor

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Post by chimen »

Yoric wrote: post #55
chimen wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sublime got completely destroyed in a single year by...an electron app (VSCODE). Chew on that. While at it I'm going to let you know why: features, open platform, plugins, ecosystem and integration. I've been a Sublime user and now I don't even have it installed any more. They share the same fate with TextMate.

On the other hand, VSCode won largely by being much faster than most of the competition. Anyway, the author wanted to write a desktop app in Rust. What's the issue with that? A few years ago, we'd have the same but "written in JS", "written in Ruby", "written in Python", ... I agree that it's more important for the author than for the end-users, of course.

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Re: Lapce – Fast open-source code editor

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Post by elcapitan »

hans1729 wrote: post #44
woile wrote: post #8

It looks really promising. I wonder why code editors have the file explorer on the left side by default, if you resize it you move the whole text (unless you write in a right-to-left language). A colleague made me aware of this a while ago and I cannot stop wondering. I moved it to the right ever since.

For the same reason almost all relevant ui-elements are left-aligned across operation systems and apps: because we are tuned to process things left-to-right and the mouse is more often on the left side than it is on the right, and it feels less intuitive to move it to the right end of the screen. - window-operation buttons on macos (close, maximize ...) - application-menus in gnome, macos etc (file, edit, view ...) -…

Except for the scroll bar. I vaguely remember from many years ago (maybe it was on Windows or some Linux desktop at the time) that you could put it there. NextStep seems to have used it like that by default, judging from screenshots.

Re: Lapce – Fast open-source code editor

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Post by chimen »

foxhill wrote: post #63
chimen wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sublime got completely destroyed in a single year by...an electron app (VSCODE). Chew on that. While at it I'm going to let you know why: features, open platform, plugins, ecosystem and integration. I've been a Sublime user and now I don't even have it installed any more. They share the same fate with TextMate.

ok, i’m glad you’ve found an editor that better suits your needs. remember, this is a preference, not a competition. personally, i much prefer the responsiveness & lower memory footprint of sublime, and couldn’t tolerate trading those off for features in atom/code. maybe this is just the new vim/emacs war :)

What do you mean it's not a competition? They are fighting for your AppStore, for the same spot, for your attention. Sublime has pricing, Microsoft has...other interests. I would have loved for Sublime to win here but it lost. Sure there are still users of it but let's not debate here. All youtube videos and pictures I see lately from programmers are using VsCode. In fact, I haven't seen a single Sublime open in a video tutorial for over 2-3 years now. It's not even funny. Speed is important but not when we talk about a second (I'm generous here).

Re: Lapce – Fast open-source code editor

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Post by power78 »

chimen wrote: post #53
pkolaczk wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sublime success shows people do need those 0.01 seconds saved (well, actually it is often not just 0.01 seconds, but a lot more - VS Code is sometimes laggy and that's really annoying).

Sublime got completely destroyed in a single year by...an electron app (VSCODE). Chew on that. While at it I'm going to let you know why: features, open platform, plugins, ecosystem and integration. I've been a Sublime user and now I don't even have it installed any more. They share the same fate with TextMate.

Yeah not sure about that. I purchased ST recently and because VS Code is so slow.
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