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Re: Reddit blocks posting any .ru links

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Post by xdennis » Sat, Mar 05, 2022, 5:54 PM UTC

quyleanh wrote: post #24

I see people, government, corporation, media... say about "No war", say about they want peace. But their actions is actually spreading feud, tbh. Media is manipulated by government for their politics. Some people are forcing their own viewpoint to others. People blindingly spreads hates without deeply thinking. Many users from social platforms think they know very well about politics and say like a professor when arg…

This is a ridiculous false equivalence.

* Russians are bombing civilians, infrastructure, power plants, &c

* We using sanctions and cutting of Russian influence.

These are in no way the same, and you can't say we're "spreading feud" when they're giving 15year prison sentences for saying the word "war".

Re: Reddit blocks posting any .ru links

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Post by dilap » Sat, Mar 05, 2022, 5:55 PM UTC

Scandiravian wrote: post #48

imwillofficial wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is an active army unit that flies a Nazi flag in eastern Ukraine. I think vice did a thing on them a few years ago. Saw videos of them kicking black people off a bus so white Ukrainians could escape. That gets half credit. I’m curious what else people have seen.

Is this group enlisted in the Ukrainian army? Are they holding political office or have strong influence on the politics of Ukraine? If having a bunch of Nazi idiots in your country is "half credit", then I think every single country on earth gets "half credit" on being governed by Nazis

He's talking about the Azov battalion. From wikipedia:

> Azov Special Operations Detachment is a right-wing extremist and neo-Nazi unit of the National Guard of Ukraine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion

Neo-nazis and hard-right nationalists were instrumental in the violent coup of the democratically-elected government in 2014, and have since taken positions in the replacement government.

I recommend this article for more background:

https://thegrayzone.com/2022/03/04/nazis-ukrainian-war-russi...

Re: Reddit blocks posting any .ru links

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Post by tasha0663 » Sat, Mar 05, 2022, 5:55 PM UTC

analogdreams wrote: post #31

Why don't we just make DNS refuse to resolve the domain while we are at it? This mass censorship is apparently the new hotness.

"And then like... I needed to do something right? So I decided we'd sensor all *hurk* Russia becau... I mean... it's just such a big deal. How bout I buy another round and we go back to my place?"

Re: Reddit blocks posting any .ru links

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Post by xdennis » Sat, Mar 05, 2022, 5:56 PM UTC

hombre_fatal wrote: post #47

conjecTech wrote: post #20

Top comment from an admin: """ We decided to do this due to the heavy cyber component to this war and the chance of manipulated content. Even seemingly innocuous links could be hosted by someone that is less benign. We certainly recognize that this is a pretty far reaching decision but there are generally other ways for most people to share the type of content that is being described. As to why this wasn't communicat…

They are saying someone might post information on an .ru link that they don't want people to see. Isn't that basic censorship? That said, this is just par for the course of Reddit. Just like how every subreddit has arbitrary rules that discourage viewpoints the moderators don't want people to see whether that's Bitcoin Cash on r/bitcoin or getting scolded by a mod on r/vancouver when I said something bad about the DT…

Yes. We need to limit access to Russian influence. It's a war.

Re: Reddit blocks posting any .ru links

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Post by unicornporn » Sat, Mar 05, 2022, 5:56 PM UTC

throwaway22032 wrote: post #28

This is so ridiculous. For christ's sake, I use Yandex translate because it's better for Russian. I now can't link that on a language learning subreddit. I'm not Russian. It's not as if Russians can't just register .com domains either. This is just fucking people around purely for the sake of it. What should I do here? Fly to Russia and tell Mr Putin to stop? It feels like corona all over again. Bad thing A happens,…

> For christ's sake, I use Yandex translate because it's better for Russian. I now can't link that on a language learning subreddit.

I'm sorry that you can't post translation links and it may seem blunt, but currently people are dying and fleeing.

If every Russian can see what an inconvenience it is to have Putin as a leader the hope is that they will be more inclined to do everything in their power to have him replaced. Some will of course just blame "west", but there will a also be those who will come to question power.

Re: Reddit blocks posting any .ru links

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Post by asjldkfin » Sat, Mar 05, 2022, 5:58 PM UTC

rrook wrote: post #53

asjldkfin wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, I'm not sure what you're talking about. But I think it's pretty basic common sense that nobody censoring information will explicitly admit to it.

This is the exact same response you'd get if it had everything to do with ~censorship~ attempting push back on anything that reduces a propaganda vector. Do you see?

The difference is that in Western society (assume you're Western), we've agreed that people should have the right to think for themselves and decided what is right and wrong- so it should be up to them to decided what is propaganda and what isn't.

Re: Reddit blocks posting any .ru links

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Post by throwaway22032 » Sat, Mar 05, 2022, 5:58 PM UTC

unicornporn wrote: post #65

throwaway22032 wrote: post #28

This is so ridiculous. For christ's sake, I use Yandex translate because it's better for Russian. I now can't link that on a language learning subreddit. I'm not Russian. It's not as if Russians can't just register .com domains either. This is just fucking people around purely for the sake of it. What should I do here? Fly to Russia and tell Mr Putin to stop? It feels like corona all over again. Bad thing A happens,…

> For christ's sake, I use Yandex translate because it's better for Russian. I now can't link that on a language learning subreddit. I'm sorry that you can't post translation links and it may seem blunt, but currently people are dying and fleeing. If every Russian can see what an inconvenience it is to have Putin as a leader the hope is that they will be more inclined to do everything in their power to have him repla…

No shit, I have friends in Ukraine and have been over there multiple times this year.

The citizens of a country don't see their existence as being a bargaining chip. There is no situation in which the Russian people simply think "oh, ok, let's just do what those people who disabled my bank account say". None.

This whole thing is an exercise in seeing just how little people know or are even interested in the world outside of their tiny bubble.

Re: Reddit blocks posting any .ru links

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Post by justinpowers » Sat, Mar 05, 2022, 5:58 PM UTC

justinpowers wrote: post #45

asjldkfin wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the exact same response you'd get if it had everything to do with censorship.

Huh? It’s also the exact same response you’d get if it had nothing to do with censorship. Your comment offers nothing.

So this ^ deserves a downvote? Please tell me why.

Re: Reddit blocks posting any .ru links

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Post by fairity » Sat, Mar 05, 2022, 6:02 PM UTC

xdennis wrote: post #55

remram wrote: post #4

This just seems completely backwards. We lament every time a country in crisis/civil war blocks Internet for its citizens: Sudan, Kazakhstan, Burkina Faso, Yemen, ... and then we cut Russia from the Internet on our side [1] If the point of sanctions is to get the local population to rise and make it difficult for the government to keep its course, why cut out their access to independent news that would let them know…

You can't have free speech during a war. There's no point in getting the local population to rise up because the vast majority of Russians are pro-Putin fascists. Even western poll show that they're pro-Putin. The point is to quarantine Russia so that it doesn't infect us.

> the vast majority of Russians are pro-Putin

Source? The latest western polls show his approval rating in the high 60s but you have to significantly discount that bc 1) the perceived danger of speaking out against the govt skews responses towards approval 2) those polls were done before the Ukrainian crisis

Re: Reddit blocks posting any .ru links

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Post by xdennis » Sat, Mar 05, 2022, 6:02 PM UTC

imwillofficial wrote: post #38

swagasaurus-rex wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about when Putin said Ukraine is run by Nazis and used it as an excuse for invasion?

There is an active army unit that flies a Nazi flag in eastern Ukraine. I think vice did a thing on them a few years ago. Saw videos of them kicking black people off a bus so white Ukrainians could escape. That gets half credit. I’m curious what else people have seen.

They are not the government. There are more nazis in Russia than any other country. And they're using nazis ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagner_Group ), islamists ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramzan_Kadyrov ), and committing war crimes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_during_the_2022_Rus...