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Re: Ask HN: European startup looking for a service for recurring billing

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I let my customers chose between PayPal Subscriptions and 2Checkout. Both work okay, but I would absolutely prefer a method that didn't involve redirecting my customers to unknown domains and interfaces like Paypal.com and 2Checkout.com.

It's a bit of a stretch to call them "unknown domains" in 2011. PayPal has 232 million accounts in over 190 markets, and anyone that's ever bought something on eBay knows them. People on all my websites have a choice between using a credit card right on the site or checking out through PayPal, and on every one of those sites, they choose PayPal more than 50% of the time.

If you are talking about the US market, you are right. In the Norwegian market, the one I'm operating it, it is certainly not that way. Very few ordinary "non-geeky" people have heard about Paypal here.

Re: Ask HN: European startup looking for a service for recurring billing

#66
I'm the founder of Simplified Ecommerce and we support international Merchants from almost everywhere.

There's a lot of really great companies in the space, I think we offer something unique. (www.simplifiedecommerce.com)

Get to market fast

- Get started within a day, without long complicated merchant account applications.

- Copy & Paste integrations with "Buy Now" links

- Instant security and PCI Compliance - Merchants never touch sensitive data

- Easy recurring subscription billing and one-time payments

- Customizable hosted payment pages that match your website and branding, with no CSS knowledge required.

- Simple straight forward pricing that includes everything in the payments stack.

Grow without limits

- Built in Affiliate Marketing

- Portable data from day 1(all customer data is stored in our level 1 PCI compliant tokenized vault)

- Add your own merchant account any time - we're a gateway, certified and integrated with most US and some international processor networks

- Switch merchant accounts seamlessly - all your data, reporting, integrations, custom payment pages, affiliate relationships... remain intact.

We have a history of over 10 years in the payments space, contact me anytime if you have any questions- colin at SimplifiedEcommerce.com

Re: Ask HN: European startup looking for a service for recurring billing

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Use http://recurly.com with http://WireCard.com/ as Gateway. Works fine in the EU! (WireCard AG is a German based credit card gateway owning a "full" bank license. It's also a public traded company regulated by strict German banking regulations)

What's WireCard like price-wise? Doesn't seem to say on their website.

    setup 149,00 EUR (seems to be negotiable)
    monthly 19,00 EUR
    per transaction 0,25 EUR + 3,45% (Visa, MC)
that was pricing in 2010, may have changed for new customers.

just ask their customer support and tell them, that you will use recurly.com which means less technical trouble for all people involved (PCI compliance etc).

Re: Ask HN: European startup looking for a service for recurring billing

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post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Addendum: And then very likely the most successful European copycats will get acquired by a the same US company when it really wants to expand abroad...

If they did something interesting, i.e. are worth acquiring. More likely, they still sit on a month-old feature set of the original and then are sued out of business – or just ignored.

never saw that "sue out of business" in Europe.

There is just no way to protect "your business idea" unless you deliver + expand fast. If the German copy-cat industry is faster, you just lost and have to pay a lot (groupon).

I personally don't like copy-cats but that's the way it currently goes.

Re: Ask HN: European startup looking for a service for recurring billing

#69

I'm the founder of Simplified Ecommerce and we support international Merchants from almost everywhere. There's a lot of really great companies in the space, I think we offer something unique. (www.simplifiedecommerce.com) Get to market fast - Get started within a day, without long complicated merchant account applications. - Copy & Paste integrations with "Buy Now" links - Instant security and PCI Compliance - Mercha…

So how come you can do this and the others can't? How do you deal with the problems listed elsewhere in the thread?

Re: Ask HN: European startup looking for a service for recurring billing

#70
Have a look at this series of posts we wrote on our blog: http://blog.handcraft.com/2011/01/looking-back-on-the-quest-... - we looked at Fastspring, Chargify and Spreedly and ultimately settled on Spreedly and Ogone (and a merchant account with AmEx). Spreedly is the processor most like Stripe of the above list.

We're in the Netherlands (like you?). Hit me up on twitter or our blog if you need any more info.

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