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Re: EU to Ban RT and Sputnik

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> Russia is not at war with the EU though? > RF is at information war with the West for about a decade. I just answered your question. > So is China So, you know the answer already. There are countries, which cannot attack West directly, so they attack indirectly, using propaganda. Some countries are better at that than others. However, one mad country directly attacks another country now, which tries to join the Wes…

Ukraine is not the west so Russia is not attacking the west. Joining NATO doesn't make a country a western country (I assume that is what you mean by joining the Western block). Do you think Turkey is a western country? Being in the west and taking your culture from Judeo-Christian / Greek philosophy means you are a part of the west. China took over Hong Kong which was a colony of the UK. You could argue an attack ag…

> Being in the west and taking your culture from Judeo-Christian / Greek philosophy

The term “west” is needlessly ambiguous. Ukraine sought to join the West, as in the league of countries with functioning democracies, strong militaries, growing economies and freedom for their citizens. In attacking Kiev, a modern European capital that does not want to be invaded and repressed, Putin attacks people striving for something valued and fought for in Warsaw, London, Toronto, Taipei, Canberra and Istanbul.

Re: EU to Ban RT and Sputnik

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post #27

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When all outlets are propaganda outlets, the only way to ensure information from both sides is to let them all scream. I, like most HNers support Ukraine's bid for survival in this war. But, the sheer magnitude and spread of pro-Ukraine and anti-Russia propaganda would even embarrass the director of Rocky 4.

Yep, I remember a war that was clearly decided in advance but maintained a pretence of negotiability, on a bed of lies and manufactured fear of WMDs, supported in general by a compliant media with plenty of military embeds, glee over "shock and awe" and dropping of a lot more ordinance, and an almost complete absence of reporting of the victims of it. That war was Iraq. Nothing forgives Putin for what he's doing, or…

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Re: EU to Ban RT and Sputnik

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I'll risk posting a reply on this thread, without having a big point to prove but more with the goal of getting an answer to a question, which some readers may find interesting and others may find sacrilegious. I'm living in Russia at present, and the dilemma I face is related to sources of news and information about the ongoing "conflict"/war/invasion. I could read Russian news, of course, but anyone and their grand…

I think it's an advantage that you can read both English and Russian sources. And it's such a lazy idea to pursue some [unbiased] [good] source. Be an adult and try understand the world by yourself. And because it's such a difficult and tiring process, sometimes it would be better just return to your normal life and all these things (social network / news / forum discussions) are not that relevant to your life actually. They do not deserve your attention. They are just something like gaming.

I'm facing the same situation that I can read both English and Chinese sources. So I'm writing these words to myself at the same time.

Re: EU to Ban RT and Sputnik

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I'll risk posting a reply on this thread, without having a big point to prove but more with the goal of getting an answer to a question, which some readers may find interesting and others may find sacrilegious. I'm living in Russia at present, and the dilemma I face is related to sources of news and information about the ongoing "conflict"/war/invasion. I could read Russian news, of course, but anyone and their grand…

I think it's an advantage that you can read both English and Russian sources. And it's such a lazy idea to pursue some [unbiased] [good] source. Be an adult and try understand the world by yourself. And because it's such a difficult and tiring process, sometimes it would be better just return to your normal life and all these things (social network / news / forum discussions) are not that relevant to your life actual…

Hey, a genuine thanks for voicing your thoughts on this.

I agree with what you say, I just hoped that someone had valiantly spent their time compiling a list of claims by all sides that I could read through, and drill into each one, just to have some perspective, if I ever care to.

Re: EU to Ban RT and Sputnik

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's an advantage that you can read both English and Russian sources. And it's such a lazy idea to pursue some [unbiased] [good] source. Be an adult and try understand the world by yourself. And because it's such a difficult and tiring process, sometimes it would be better just return to your normal life and all these things (social network / news / forum discussions) are not that relevant to your life actual…

Hey, a genuine thanks for voicing your thoughts on this. I agree with what you say, I just hoped that someone had valiantly spent their time compiling a list of claims by all sides that I could read through, and drill into each one, just to have some perspective, if I ever care to.

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