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Apple Announces Event on October 4th: Let's Talk iPhone

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Re: Apple Announces Event on October 4th: Let's Talk iPhone

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Post by shinratdr »

cryptoz wrote: post #33
smackfu wrote: post #30

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And the clock icon never shows the correct time. It seems like the calendar app is a hack to get it to work right.

I used to own an iPhone 3G and was pretty mad that the calendar icon changed day to day but the weather icon always showed 23 degrees C, sunny. So very frustrating, especially in winter when it's -35 and windy. I now run Android and have Beautiful Widgets showing me the correct weather. :)

One is always predictable and one requires you to check for new information before you display it. The concern was definitely battery life & update frequency, so they just left it as a static icon.

The weather widget in iOS 5 is a better compromise, it just quickly grabs the weather info when you start pulling down the notification drawer.

Re: Apple Announces Event on October 4th: Let's Talk iPhone

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Post by r00fus »

runjake wrote: post #22
blinkingled wrote: post #17

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Interesting. I have heard from so many friends that current iPhone camera is about as good as it can get. Curious what you are expecting more - just bumped up mega pixels? Not sure how much that would matter - going from 5MP to 8MP for e.g.

8mp, 1080p, etc. The Android world (the HTC Sensation being the first to pop into mind) has finally surpassed the iPhone 4 in camera and video capture quality. I imagine Apple will leapfrog them again as usual for a healthy competitive market.

Megapixels != quality. Lens and sensor are far more important.

Can you show me a review that honestly shows new Androids beating an iPhone4 in actual results despite the megapixels?

Re: Apple Announces Event on October 4th: Let's Talk iPhone

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Post by ugh »

gurkendoktor wrote: post #59
wanorris wrote: post #49

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If anyone can convince the mass market that they care about a voice interface, it's Apple. But there are some things not even Apple can do, and I suspect this may be one of them.

Hasn't exactly that feature already somehow failed with the iPod Shuffle, which has physical buttons again? I haven't bought or ever seen that device or the 4th gen successor to make a hands-on judgment. But it seemed like a step back from VoiceOver from the outside. (I loved my 2nd gen Shuffle!)

The iPod shuffle has nothing whatsoever to do with voice control.

Edit: That is actually factually true. Not sure why some seem to think otherwise.

Re: Apple Announces Event on October 4th: Let's Talk iPhone

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Post by shinratdr »

heynk wrote: post #42

Might be too much speculation, but the first thing I thought when I saw the maps icon was a hint that they'd reveal their own non-google maps system.

Pretty unlikely, we probably would have seen some slip-ups in the iOS 5 beta if that was the case. As it stands they are still steadily improving the existing Maps with Google services, adding alternate routes and whatnot.

Re: Apple Announces Event on October 4th: Let's Talk iPhone

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Post by Danny72 »

gurkendoktor wrote: post #59
wanorris wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If anyone can convince the mass market that they care about a voice interface, it's Apple. But there are some things not even Apple can do, and I suspect this may be one of them.

Hasn't exactly that feature already somehow failed with the iPod Shuffle, which has physical buttons again? I haven't bought or ever seen that device or the 4th gen successor to make a hands-on judgment. But it seemed like a step back from VoiceOver from the outside. (I loved my 2nd gen Shuffle!)

The 4th gen Shuffle is the 2nd gen, but slightly smaller and with the VoiceOver technology. If you loved the 2nd gen, you'll love it.

Re: Apple Announces Event on October 4th: Let's Talk iPhone

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Post by mitchty »

cryptoz wrote: post #33
smackfu wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And the clock icon never shows the correct time. It seems like the calendar app is a hack to get it to work right.

I used to own an iPhone 3G and was pretty mad that the calendar icon changed day to day but the weather icon always showed 23 degrees C, sunny. So very frustrating, especially in winter when it's -35 and windy. I now run Android and have Beautiful Widgets showing me the correct weather. :)

Your anecdote reminds me of when I think iOS4 or thereabout came out.

A friend was going nuts going OMG OMG THE WEATHER APP UPDATES LIVE NOW. It turns out it just happened to be 73 or whatever degrees out at the time after he updated.

For these small things like weather updates I agree that apple needs to allow developers to update the app icon or whatever with some alert system on the home screen. It wouldn't be overly difficult to implement.

Re: Apple Announces Event on October 4th: Let's Talk iPhone

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Post by andrewljohnson »

MatthewPhillips wrote: post #54
wanorris wrote: post #49

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If anyone can convince the mass market that they care about a voice interface, it's Apple. But there are some things not even Apple can do, and I suspect this may be one of them.

The mass market already cares about voice-to-text, it's heavily used by Android users (according to the Google-provided data).

True fact. Voice search on Android works flawlessly and I use it all the time in the car.

Re: Apple Announces Event on October 4th: Let's Talk iPhone

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Post by [deleted] »

raganwald wrote: post #57
joebadmo wrote: post #45

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"Next time somebody asks you why you prefer Apple products to competitors, show them this invite. Explains everything." I suppose in your metaphor it would be: "Next time somebody asks you why you prefer Jim to his colleagues, show them how he dresses. Explains everything." I think your formulation is reasonable and measured. I totally agree that Apple's marketing reflects something about the company. But the GGP com…

To be fair, there is a difference between saying that X demonstrates Y and saying that X proves Y. It is sometimes useful to say things like “Apple’s approach to ___ demonstrates how they approach product development.” It simply shows an example of something you believe carries over to their products. The example that comes to my mind is how the original Macintosh was packaged. Someone at Apple had taken great care t…

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