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Hyperloop lays off half of its employees as it pivots away from passenger travel

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Re: Hyperloop lays off half of its employees as it pivots away from passenger travel

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I find it quite surprising that they only fired half and not all of them. How can this conceptual vacuum tube pod system that has been shown to be incredibly inefficient and prohibitively expensive still have some kind of business model? To be honest I thought this whole idea got scrapped 5+ years ago.

Where has it been shown to be incredibly inefficient and prohibitively expensive? I’d love to read about it.

Re: Hyperloop lays off half of its employees as it pivots away from passenger travel

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Whenever Richard Branson invest in something you know its basically a terrible idea.

This company adopted the Hyperloop because it allowed the to get funding based Musk name but then instantly went away from everything that Musk suggested would be needed to make the concept viable.

What Musk actually published can still be read here:

https://www.tesla.com/sites/default/files/blog_images/hyperl...

Musk really only thought Hyperloop made sense between two really very high density urban centers such as SF and LA. For the majority of transportation between cities super-sonic electric powered flight was his preferred solution.

Re: Hyperloop lays off half of its employees as it pivots away from passenger travel

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the current passenger rail “system” in the US is horrendous.

So.. maglev?

None of the reasons that the current passenger rail system in the US is horrendous are technical. It's entirely feasible to build proper passenger rail networks with current, look at Japan and western Europe for some examples. The problems are all sociological in nature.

Re: Hyperloop lays off half of its employees as it pivots away from passenger travel

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Glossing over the fact that almost all the railways in the US are privately owned by cargo companies which prioritize their cargo over transport. Huge reason Amtrak struggles so much

Yeah, but there is also a reason that privately owned companies have no interest in passenger rail travel.

Because the US government shovels hundreds of billions of dollars of subsidies every year into competitors of passenger rail?

Re: Hyperloop lays off half of its employees as it pivots away from passenger travel

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Glossing over the fact that almost all the railways in the US are privately owned by cargo companies which prioritize their cargo over transport. Huge reason Amtrak struggles so much

Yeah, but there is also a reason that privately owned companies have no interest in passenger rail travel.

You've missed the Brightline news, huh?

Re: Hyperloop lays off half of its employees as it pivots away from passenger travel

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There are a lot of reasons standard rail in the US is cargo centric. Profit and a much easier customer service case are big ones. Also, sending cargo in a new transportation system is much easier and less lawsuit prone than people. An old story in the US since the post office basically made airplane travel viable via postal contracts.

Glossing over the fact that almost all the railways in the US are privately owned by cargo companies which prioritize their cargo over transport. Huge reason Amtrak struggles so much

The companies that own the railways are in the business of making money, not in the business of screwing Amtrak.

I'm sure they would be more than happy to prioritize Amtrak trains over their cargo customers if they are suitably compensated for the trouble.

If Amtrak isn't willing or able to compensate them for it... Then clearly it's not that important.

Re: Hyperloop lays off half of its employees as it pivots away from passenger travel

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post #2

Bummer. Musk-hyped moonshot or not, I thought Hyperloop presented an incredibly exciting vision for the future of mass transit. Even if it was always going to be a long shot, it’s disappointing to be right. Edit: replies saying "this never could have worked" are missing the point to a pretty hysterical degree. You don't know that. No one knows that! Unless you are from the future or are a genius-level mechanical engi…

After watching the video of a traffic jam inside the 1-lane wide tunnel, I'm not sure I would dare to go into it. I immediately thought what would happen if a car crashed into the wall and it caught fire. Seemingly, it didn't have enough space to go around it.

Re: Hyperloop lays off half of its employees as it pivots away from passenger travel

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Glossing over the fact that almost all the railways in the US are privately owned by cargo companies which prioritize their cargo over transport. Huge reason Amtrak struggles so much

I'd prefer Amtrak over aircraft for lots and lots of my travel, if not for this. Hell, I'd probably travel more total, too. Even if the price were the same as flying for a given destination. The huge trip-duration and arrival-time uncertainty due to the shared rail, and having to defer to cargo trains, is what sinks it, for me. They can vary by large double digit percentages of the nominal time, at which point they'r…

Yeah it was amazing living in France where rail is often faster, and sometimes much faster than driving. And often quicker than air travel when going from city centre to city centre.
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