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Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Literally a trap to hand over your encryption keys. Never sign into an operating system with a cloud identity. You should have stopped using windows years ago. There is no excuse, especially thanks to Valve for their work enhancing wine ecosystem and making your games work.

but the adobes

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Using Windows with a Microsoft account introduces all sorts of issues that only power users tend to come across, and power users are who Windows Pro is targeted for.

For example, RDP'ing to a Windows Pro computer with a Microsoft account becomes a lot more difficult. Another example is that Windows still needs a local username and password, even if you've logged in with a Microsoft account, and this can get out of sync if you change your Microsoft account password online, meaning you now have a different local password to your online account.

It's a frustration that power users don't need and this is probably going to force me to relegate Windows to a VM.

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Can you use Apple products without an account? If not*, what version of Linux should I get setup with. Casual web development. I mostly use my personal machine for gaming. Edit - Typo

You're best starting with Ubuntu. It has the biggest userbase which makes googling for answers easier.

It'll handle casual web dev without breaking a sweat.

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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“The changes will mirror the same requirements Microsoft originally added to Windows 11 Home last year, meaning you won’t be able to avoid Microsoft Accounts by creating a local user account during setup.” If I remember correctly, when you install Win11 Home, it forces you to login with a Microsoft account. But the easy workaround is to unplug the ethernet cable, windows will realize it can’t connect and the local ac…

My last round of Windows 11 installs, I just created a new MS account for the install, created a local admin user, and then deleted the MS account from the machine and built local accounts out normally.

I'm sure, somewhere, there's a Microsoft VP whose "New MS accounts" KPI looks great...

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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I believe you can still choose the domain join option during install and still create a local account

Are there any simple domain server emulators out there which I could just run on a Raspberry Pi or whatever, like the fake KMS servers? That would be a decent workaround.

Samba can work as an Active Directory DC, but I have never gotten around trying it: https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Setting_up_Samba_as_an_Acti...

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

#67

Wishes: Microsoft just buy a linux distro. Bless it, so MS Apps only run on Windows. Make it free for home installs and remove these cloud login shenanigans. Friggin' keep charging Amazon and GCP for running it virtually (unless you actually want mindshare). I'd totally flock to Windows (and its paid services). I guess I just don't see why an operating system is still their cash cow. Feels like the stupid that is: bu…

This is how they move away from the OS being their cash cow: using the OS as a gateway for all their cloud services. For that they want everyone to have and use a Microsoft account.

It's just like how airlines used to make money with plane tickets, but now they mostly lose money with the tickets and make it back with everything else (both nickel-and-diming you and frequent flier miles). Flying is cheaper now, but incentives were better aligned when tickets were the cash-cow.

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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post #52

Can you use Apple products without an account? If not*, what version of Linux should I get setup with. Casual web development. I mostly use my personal machine for gaming. Edit - Typo

Depending on your hardware, you may be able to utilize Looking Glass[1]. It’s software for running games in a virtual machine that has a dedicated graphics card. I do not meet the requirements myself (and will not anytime soon with current graphics card prices), but the concept looks somewhat solid.

[1]: https://looking-glass.io/

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Desktop linux is as much of an incoherent, barely working mess as it has always been.

You couldn't be more wrong. I made the leap to Ubuntu 20.04 late last year and haven't regretted it. This after a quarter decade of being a Windows guy. There's a couple rough edges, but overall? I'm home.

A quarter decade? So you were a Windows guy for a couple of years?

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Dialing up the annoyance level to a 11. Microsoft has spent the last 6 years or more glacially gravitating its OS-developer features towards Ubuntu. Because they couldn't do better - VSCode being the one crowning glory - and not an insignificant one. The side annoyances of a barely functional Cortana & Edge, were things I looked past, now add one more, a required account - we'll be led into unknown realms of integration (not of tools) but of 'marketing identity' and SSO .

Developers by the very nature of their job are OK with torture, so I guess this will go un-noticed. Hopefully it will be unobtrusive as well, I mean how many more roadblocks can MS put up on that path to WSL prompt/environment. Its a small price to pay - (negative shout-out to System 76). But hopefully Win11 is more intuitive/bearable for people who live on the CLI.

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