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Re: Gmail – A New Integrated Layout

#61
post #11

> Important: To use the new view, you must turn on Chat in Gmail and set Chat to the left hand panel. Learn how to turn on Chat in Gmail. "c'mon, use our messaging products again"

How many of these have they killed already? Google Talk, Google Pie, Google Plus to an extent. Which ones am I missing?

They also made SMS over Google Voice a second class citizen.

Re: Gmail – A New Integrated Layout

#63
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google launched IMAP for Gmail fifteen years ago. Use that if you want stasis.

No offense to Google, imap is inferior to both JAMP and Gmail's REST API for present day messaging and integration purposes. Google's IMAP implementation also has some...quirks.

I use a Mac email app called Mimestream that uses the Gmail API directly, it's a very nice experience.

Re: Gmail – A New Integrated Layout

#64
post #35

It's funny that right now there isn't a single comment that mentions something positive about the new interface. It's either completely terrible or - more likely - people hate change.

Some changes are good. The new Facebook rewrite and redesign is good. The new Google Meet design is good.

This isn't.

Re: Gmail – A New Integrated Layout

#66

How many (HN) Gmail users still use the Gmail interface? I remember giving up on it as a primary interface in the mid-to-late '00s, my laptop was crappy and the interface had slowed down so much that it was nearly unusable. There was visible lag while typing a message on my circa 2003 cheap HP laptop (I was a student, it was what I could afford). It was like getting sent back to 1996 and typing out documents in Word…

I gave up pretty recently, within the last 5 years. My travel computer struggled to handle use of slack and gmail at the same time.

When I transitioned away from the gmail app, I also transitioned away from using gmail as my primary account. (Though this took a rather long time to completely migrate).

I used the gmail app on my phone over IMAP for much longer, but stopped that when some update made it so that I couldn't send plaintext emails from my phone anymore. All emails were html --- and I detest html email.

There is one exception. When I want to search old emails, I'll open up gmail and search. I don't have a good search setup for my old emails.

Re: Gmail – A New Integrated Layout

#67
post #11

> Important: To use the new view, you must turn on Chat in Gmail and set Chat to the left hand panel. Learn how to turn on Chat in Gmail. "c'mon, use our messaging products again"

How many of these have they killed already? Google Talk, Google Pie, Google Plus to an extent. Which ones am I missing?

What on earth is Google Pie?

Re: Gmail – A New Integrated Layout

#68
post #11

> Important: To use the new view, you must turn on Chat in Gmail and set Chat to the left hand panel. Learn how to turn on Chat in Gmail. "c'mon, use our messaging products again"

How many of these have they killed already? Google Talk, Google Pie, Google Plus to an extent. Which ones am I missing?

Another 261:

https://killedbygoogle.com/

Re: Gmail – A New Integrated Layout

#69
post #11

> Important: To use the new view, you must turn on Chat in Gmail and set Chat to the left hand panel. Learn how to turn on Chat in Gmail. "c'mon, use our messaging products again"

How many of these have they killed already? Google Talk, Google Pie, Google Plus to an extent. Which ones am I missing?

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/08/a-decade-and-a-half-...

Re: Gmail – A New Integrated Layout

#70
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

html gmail works. You used to be able to set it as your default view (well, you still can technically), but they stopped respecting that setting and just send you to the javascript one now anyway. Still, if you change your URL manually after logging in (and possibly answer a prompt of "do you really want to use html gmail?" with yes), you can still get to it, and it's the same interface as ever.

> Still, if you change your URL manually after logging in You can also bookmark the modified URL, or (what I do) have it always open as an "unloaded"/suspended tab that you can click to load.

yes, although if you have to login (which i do because my cookies clear on each browser reload), it will still redirect you to the javascript gmail after logging in, even if you came from the html-gmail URL. Really they just need to respect the html-as-default setting. I doubt they even broke it on purpose, it's just that nobody at google cares about it. And of course, trying to report any sort of issue to google is a lost cause. either it affects huge swaths of people and they find out about it themselves, or you're just fucked
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