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Re: Passwordle

#62

Someone more capable than I should make the final form of this: No green or yellow feedback is provided, but only the timing information used to calculate it. If cryptographers are serious about side-channel attacks, why not show off the danger using no-information Wordle? (edit: Absurdle was taken)

Absurdle already exists: https://qntm.org/files/absurdle/absurdle.html ;)

Re: Passwordle

#63
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or use a new password every day like worle. So you have a community effort to guess it

Is any of the information (yellow/green for characters) presented getting you closer to the real answer in any meaningful way though?

No, that's the joke of the site.

Re: Passwordle

#64

Someone more capable than I should make the final form of this: No green or yellow feedback is provided, but only the timing information used to calculate it. If cryptographers are serious about side-channel attacks, why not show off the danger using no-information Wordle? (edit: Absurdle was taken)

They should name it something else as absurdle is already taken.

https://qntm.org/files/absurdle/absurdle.html

Re: Passwordle

#65

Someone more capable than I should make the final form of this: No green or yellow feedback is provided, but only the timing information used to calculate it. If cryptographers are serious about side-channel attacks, why not show off the danger using no-information Wordle? (edit: Absurdle was taken)

An Absurdle exists[1], but instead of giving no hints it is adversarial, e.g. changing the secret word to dodge your guesses.

[1] https://qntm.org/files/absurdle/absurdle.html

Re: Passwordle

#66
This would be kind of fun to write a solver for. You'd burn the first few guesses to get some positional constraints, then filter a rainbow table down to viable guesses. I'm not sure you'd be able to get a very good success rate in just 10 possible guesses though.

Re: Passwordle

#67
post #40
post #37

Got it in one "guess." Apparently どうぞ means "here you are." Makes me think the brick was deliberately left in the door for folks who look for such things.

My first guess was "friend", a la the Doors of Durin. http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Doors_of_Durin

“The Four Most-Used Passwords Are Love, Sex, Secret, and God”

Re: Passwordle

#68

Someone more capable than I should make the final form of this: No green or yellow feedback is provided, but only the timing information used to calculate it. If cryptographers are serious about side-channel attacks, why not show off the danger using no-information Wordle? (edit: Absurdle was taken)

Given that speed/timing is important, and the rules are designed to impede your progress, how about calling it Hurdle?

Re: Passwordle

#69
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or use a new password every day like worle. So you have a community effort to guess it

Is any of the information (yellow/green for characters) presented getting you closer to the real answer in any meaningful way though?

Inherently with a (proper) hashing algorithm, the value and placement of characters in the hash means next-to-nothing in terms of the actual original text. For example:

password = 5e884898da28047151d0e56f8dc6292773603d0d6aabbdd62a11ef721d1542d8

passwurd = 1966e583daff0fce5630d5de44f303f0e77f77940f02c7d648defadc31059c7b

Notice they're very different results, even though the original text only has 1 character difference.

Re: Passwordle

#70
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or use a new password every day like worle. So you have a community effort to guess it

Is any of the information (yellow/green for characters) presented getting you closer to the real answer in any meaningful way though?

Sort off, if you already have a lookup table of possible solutions.
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