Why does the website have HTTPS??
https is only encryption in transit. endpoints see all traffic.
Yes, I know all of that, but that's encryption which is something this website is against
UK launches “No Place To Hide” propaganda campaign to ban E2EE
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Re: UK launches “No Place To Hide” propaganda campaign to ban E2EE
#62Didn't the wikileaks stuff show the GCHQ and other five eyes agency basically have direct access to all this information anyway. I don't know enough about E2EE to know whether a backdoor or some other circumvention is possible.
> Didn't the wikileaks stuff show the GCHQ and other five eyes agency basically have direct access to all this information anyway
...and the 2003 incident involving Katherine Gun showed that those agencies don't really give an $expletive about anyone's privacy, and that many governments don't give an $expletive about telling the truth.
Re: UK launches “No Place To Hide” propaganda campaign to ban E2EE
#63With how many people only read headlines and nothing else, is calling it "No Place to Hide" a wise decision"?
Re: UK launches “No Place To Hide” propaganda campaign to ban E2EE
#64Sorry for the choice words, but shit like this makes my blood boil. You're not trying to "keep our children safe" motherfucker, and you know it. You're trying to prevent people from being able to have private conversations, so your secret agencies can harvest all the data from everyone easily. To phrase it as "but think of the children" is instrumentalizing the actual victims of child abuse and you should be ashamed.
> so your secret agencies can harvest all the data from everyone easily
The thing is, I don’t think the people who work at those agencies would want this either, except for maybe law enforcement. It’s the bureaucrats who think it’s a good idea, everyone else knows it’s a shite one. It’s an utter farce.
Re: UK launches “No Place To Hide” propaganda campaign to ban E2EE
#65It's sad because obviously banning E2EE will make pretty much zero difference in keeping children safe. Pedofiles and abusers will just install E2EE apps manually or use one of the zillion systems to send E2EE messages. As an example, banning movie piracy had zero effect in stopping emule, torrents and illegal streaming.
FWIW, it's pedophile (or paedophile). 'Pedofile' is the notoriously efficient entropy coding compression format used for child pornography stashes (/s).
Re: UK launches “No Place To Hide” propaganda campaign to ban E2EE
#66convenient list of charities I will no longer be supporting. This whole campaign is disgusting, and reminds me of the propaganda the government put out when the UK had a vote on vote reform.
There are so many charities today. Utterly impossible that more than a handful are sustained by $25 checks from old ladies. Most are money/reputation laundering & tax dodges for corporations, lobbyists, governments, and high net-worth individuals. They are unclean, and should be cleansed with fire.
Re: UK launches “No Place To Hide” propaganda campaign to ban E2EE
#67What a waste of public money. As the paraphrased saying goes: “If you outlaw Encryption only outlaws will have Encryption.” It doesn’t solve a thing, other than make politicians look like they are doing something. Petty thieves, small time drug dealers and other small time criminals may end up without encryption. But it doesn’t solve organised crime, there are the problem and they are intelligent enough to use an enc…
>“If you outlaw Encryption only outlaws will have Encryption.” You overestimate outlaws. 99% of them will just use major platforms and not bother with encryption. There is a lot of low hanging fruit.
And you think our police will have the resources do do anything for those 99%? They are already doing it all out in the open on public platforms, on street corners. Encryption isn’t a barer for enforcement in those cases.
The issue is the worst 1% and they will continue to use encryption anyway.
Re: UK launches “No Place To Hide” propaganda campaign to ban E2EE
#68There are so many more low hanging fruits to combat child abuse material, but governments are not taking any action.
By now it's common knowledge that it's really NOT that hard to take down vast amounts of it.
https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/sexual-violence-a...
So I find it hard to believe that this is about protecting children.
Re: UK launches “No Place To Hide” propaganda campaign to ban E2EE
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
To be honest the motivation to keep our children (or people more generally) safe seems way more clear to me that the motivation… to prevent people from having private conversations… to what end?
So that they can better control you?
But again… for what? Are you under the impression that every government is actually authoritarian under the hood but that characteristic just doesn’t really show its head due to encryption? Seems to me authoritarian governments have no problem being authoritarian with or without these sorts of provisions.
Side note: I’m not actually against E2E encryption. Strong proponent really. I just think these arguments tend not to resonate with a very broad audience outside of the security/privacy/technolibertarian communities
Re: UK launches “No Place To Hide” propaganda campaign to ban E2EE
#70Sorry for the choice words, but shit like this makes my blood boil. You're not trying to "keep our children safe" motherfucker, and you know it. You're trying to prevent people from being able to have private conversations, so your secret agencies can harvest all the data from everyone easily. To phrase it as "but think of the children" is instrumentalizing the actual victims of child abuse and you should be ashamed.
Most citizens are now well aware of governments ploy to use children's virginity to muzzle their dissent.