Live data from Hacker News

The complete idiot's guide to OpenBSD on the Pinebook Pro

tomscii.sig7.se

61–67 of 67 posts

Re: The complete idiot's guide to OpenBSD on the Pinebook Pro

#61
post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Am I missing something? That is the title. Was it previously different?

A (presumably describing the author) vs the (presumably describing the reader).

Oh gotcha thanks

Re: The complete idiot's guide to OpenBSD on the Pinebook Pro

#62
post #21
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

BSD's don't use partitions, but slices. And, well, NetBSD it's pretty conservative, but OpenBSD's defaults are good for a desktop.

For all practical intents and purposes, BSD's use partitions. They just call them differently because they use a different technical implementation. But they're still just as static and just as limiting as regular partitions.

No, you slice up an OpenBSD partition (GPT/MBR/Apple...) into several parts (subvolumes to get mounted).

Re: The complete idiot's guide to OpenBSD on the Pinebook Pro

#63
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With current SSD's speed and price just use dump(8) and restore(8) to and from external devices.

Sure, or just roll a tar-ball etc. It's how to do it. It's just a bit of a round-about way, is all.

Yes. But most OpenBSD system partitions (anything but /home) get a pretty small size compared to the full disk, do dump/restore will work pretty fast.

Re: The complete idiot's guide to OpenBSD on the Pinebook Pro

#64
post #22
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So when you were told to RTFM, did you find the answer in the manual? If you didn't, did you tell them, and how did they respond? I don't have any experience with OpenBSD or its community, but I'm in several (Linux-related) communities that would also tell you to RTFM if you were to ask a question that we expect is answered in the FM. And we would be happy to be corrected if you came back and told us it wasn't there,…

You didn't read my whole comment, did you? I said "edge cases for laptop X". Of course I read the FM. Of course I did my homework before asking question. But that's it, right there: just considering that, by default, newcomers are incapable of reading the documentation. You just did it.

>But that's it, right there: just considering that, by default, newcomers are incapable of reading the documentation. You just did it.

My comment did not make this assertion. I did read your whole comment, but I don't think you read mine.

Re: The complete idiot's guide to OpenBSD on the Pinebook Pro

#65
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

BSD's don't use partitions, but slices. And, well, NetBSD it's pretty conservative, but OpenBSD's defaults are good for a desktop.

What distinction are you trying to make? The disklabel utility can be used to install, examine, or modify the label on a disk drive or pack. The disk label contains information about disk characteristics (size, type, etc.) and the partition layout, stored on the disk itself. disklabel supports 15 configurable partitions, `a' through `p', excluding `c'. The `c' partition describes the entire physical disk, is automati…

Your openbsd sd0e partition wont show up under fdisk. sd0c will as it can be maped to either the openbsd A6 partition under MBR/GPT or a disklabel using the whole disk.

Re: The complete idiot's guide to OpenBSD on the Pinebook Pro

#66
post #62
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For all practical intents and purposes, BSD's use partitions. They just call them differently because they use a different technical implementation. But they're still just as static and just as limiting as regular partitions.

No, you slice up an OpenBSD partition (GPT/MBR/Apple...) into several parts (subvolumes to get mounted).

It's the same...GPT is the partition-table, you even write it yourself:

>into several parts

parts are partitions and not subvolumes, a subvolume is a filesystem or volume-manager on top of a partition and it's size/quota etc is defined BY the filesystem or the volume-manager (look up btrfs subvolumes, zfs-filesystems or lvm).

Re: The complete idiot's guide to OpenBSD on the Pinebook Pro

#67
post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What distinction are you trying to make? The disklabel utility can be used to install, examine, or modify the label on a disk drive or pack. The disk label contains information about disk characteristics (size, type, etc.) and the partition layout, stored on the disk itself. disklabel supports 15 configurable partitions, `a' through `p', excluding `c'. The `c' partition describes the entire physical disk, is automati…

Your openbsd sd0e partition wont show up under fdisk. sd0c will as it can be maped to either the openbsd A6 partition under MBR/GPT or a disklabel using the whole disk.

As far as I know the c partition is always the whole disk, regardless of what you have (or don't have) in MBR or GPT. If you want to image the whole disk with dd, you'll reach for rsd0c, always.

But I still don't understand what distinction you're trying to make. Yes, disklabel partitions don't show up in MRB, just as GPT partitions won't. No surprise that the three different partitioning methods aren't exactly aware of each other.

Post reply on HN