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Spotify sees spike in traffic to cancellation page: 196% week-on-week

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Re: Spotify sees spike in traffic to cancellation page: 196% week-on-week

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On my social bubble, an impressive amount of people have cancelled their premium accounts. I had a friend who had always recommended me trying out Youtube Music for their recommendation and I used the opportunity to switch, not looking back.. Somehow, Youtube Premium + Music for family is cheaper than Spotify Premium for family.

Good thing YouTube isn't full of misinformation.

Re: Spotify sees spike in traffic to cancellation page: 196% week-on-week

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess that depends on ones definition of "promotes" and even "false". And, "deceptive" requires intent. I imagine this is up for some interpretation.

> And, "deceptive" requires intent. Obviously, it doesn't, because adjudicating this would require building a mind-reading device. Unless Spotify possesses one, clearly, the intent behind this rule is that the intent behind the deception is irrelevant. A rule that you can break by having the right or wrong thoughts isn't a rule. > I guess that depends on ones definition of "promotes" and even "false". Yes, and it als…

In criminal law in most nations intent plays an extremely important role.

Yet these mind reading devices do not exist. Is it because there are other ways to establish intent?

> A rule that you can break by having the right or wrong thoughts isn't a rule.

Yet somehow those kinds of rules are enforced in a courtroom thousands of times a week.

In this context, deception would have been proven by simply proving the person knew the information was untrue. You be surprised how often people publicly admit to that in some other context. And then suddenly "intent" is proven.

>Words have generally agreed upon meanings,

Especially in a legal context. But that doesn't make the classification of "promoting false information" easier.

Re: Spotify sees spike in traffic to cancellation page: 196% week-on-week

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> unless you are arguing that the cost of the service has inflated more greatly than the income of its users. It's not required that the service itself has an inflated price. People have some amount of spending money. If inflation is causing other things to cost more, there will be less spending money left over. > Can you elaborate on why you think it is due to inflation, rather than what the article cited? I'm not t…

Thank you for the thoughtful reply. That is a rational argument for how inflation would impact subscriptions, even when the price of the subscription does not increase. Though, wouldn't the effects of inflation be seen as being less spike-y? The highlight of this article was that visitations to the cancellation page spiked hundreds of percent week-over-week, however, inflation while crushing, hasn't spiked to such a…

> Would it then be reasonable to infer that these visitations to the cancellation page are not (primarily) driven by inflation?

I think that's more than reasonable. :)

Re: Spotify sees spike in traffic to cancellation page: 196% week-on-week

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On my social bubble, an impressive amount of people have cancelled their premium accounts. I had a friend who had always recommended me trying out Youtube Music for their recommendation and I used the opportunity to switch, not looking back.. Somehow, Youtube Premium + Music for family is cheaper than Spotify Premium for family.

Good thing YouTube isn't full of misinformation.

Not with a $200 million check from the platform, indeed.
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