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> I can only spot the cursing in my post.
Are you pretending people can only see the part of the post above the edit line when they vote, or something?
I downvoted you for being obnoxious in the edits.
Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes
#63Where can I find a backup so I can archive them and upload them to bittorrent?
Why not just seed an existing torrent
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#64honestly seems more like the guests requesting their episodes being removed and it being done in batches. Lots of common names being removed.
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#65I think Joe Rogan is an idiot. But, if anything, Spotify should have just posted a disclaimer somewhere stating these aren’t their views, with some links to reputable sources - even their own “Science Vs” podcast. It’s not like now the people who believed what he was saying are going to shrug their shoulders and start reading the “New England Journal of Medicine”.
And grant a clear copyright use of the audio to people to produce commentary style rebuttals?
Even better.
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"Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading." Second to last line of https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
Well give me a chance, I might make this more interesting than you think. We are, after all, literally discussing silencing.
Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes
#67I think Joe Rogan is an idiot. But, if anything, Spotify should have just posted a disclaimer somewhere stating these aren’t their views, with some links to reputable sources - even their own “Science Vs” podcast. It’s not like now the people who believed what he was saying are going to shrug their shoulders and start reading the “New England Journal of Medicine”.
The Joe Rogan Experience* *The stories and information expressed here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything mentioned here as fact.
Name calling? Keep it classy!
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#68This is idiotic. I really respected Spotify for their position in the face of 'controversy.' I'm not a JRE listener, but believe in free speech. What Spotify is doing now just pisses off both sides. Pro speech people don't like this, JRE listeners don't like this, and anti Rogan people won't stop until he's 'canceled' completely.
Fortunately Rogan is still as free as ever to publish these episodes in any other venue, but Spotify (like any publisher) reserves the right to host (or not) whatever content it wants. This isn't an infringement on anyone's speech, so hopefully "pro-speech" people (interesting false dichotomy you've struck between this group and "anti-Rogan" people) are just as happy as they were yesterday. EDIT: A lot of reflexive c…
I'm actually not sure that's true, it depends on the precise details of spotify's contract with rogan. Part of it was exclusivity.
But even still, its censorship Rogan opted into to get $$$.
Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes
#69This is idiotic. I really respected Spotify for their position in the face of 'controversy.' I'm not a JRE listener, but believe in free speech. What Spotify is doing now just pisses off both sides. Pro speech people don't like this, JRE listeners don't like this, and anti Rogan people won't stop until he's 'canceled' completely.
This is a good analysis of one of his more controversial podcasts. It’s not him presenting “both sides”. He has an agenda and his guests push flat out lies that go unchecked: https://www.wired.com/story/plaintext-joe-rogan-spotify-thou...
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#70Remember all those times you have seen gaslighting ideologues saying "nobody is actually calling for [canceling/deleting/censorship]", remember how they couch any argument with "private company can do what it wants". I don't care about Joe Rogan in particular, but you're deluding yourself if you think there isn't some relevance here. A lot of people now suddenly hate Joe, the same way they hate Jordan Peterson, the s…
So, it’s pretty serious. Spotify is paying Joe Rogan to broadcast disinformation that is getting people killed. I think it’s okay in this case if people have a sudden change of opinion or a newly formed strong opinion. He didn’t crack an off color joke.
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