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Re: Apple Event for iPhone 5 announcement on October 4th

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Post by matwood »

dentton wrote: post #59
mdasen wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with the sentiment, but to play devil's advocate: Last quarter Verizon had a couple LTE Android handsets. They sold 1.2M LTE devices (both handsets and modems) while they sold 2.3M iPhones. The iPhone 5 will be coming 1-2 quarters later, but a lack of LTE might not be as big a deal for the majority of users as it is for, well, people who read this site. Verizon should be posting third quarter numbers in a mon…

All of the Android LTE phones have user replaceable batteries. If the battery loses capacity they can easily be replaced at decent prices which makes your point moot.

Actually replaceable batteries don't make the point moot at all. I certainly don't want to have to carry around spare batteries just so I can use LTE. If LTE is as hard on battery life as suggested, that makes it a very real problem regardless if I can carry around spares.

Re: Apple Event for iPhone 5 announcement on October 4th

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Post by ben1040 »

jsz0 wrote: post #49
ansy wrote: post #21

By most accounts the iPhone 5 will not have LTE. That's going to sting with Verizon customers in the United States. While it will probably support HSPA+ on AT&T which is already decently fast, Verizon CDMA is direly slow. It will be a hard sell to get Verizon customers to pass up LTE for the next two years when there are already a few really good Android phones with LTE and most major cities have LTE coverage right n…

Between caps, higher prices, and the poor battery life of the first generation of LTE devices, the US carriers have done a really good job making LTE less appealing. I really don't want to pay more to get 4G (up to $10/month for some carriers) when I can't actually use it for more than an hour or so a month at full speed and will be penalized on a daily basis with reduced battery life. I have no 4G coverage here so I…

>I really don't want to pay more to get 4G (up to $10/month for some carriers)

What carriers in the US do that? Verizon has no surcharge for LTE.

Sprint's $10 surcharge started out as a surchage on WiMax phones, but is now a surcharge on any smartphone regardless of what radio it's got.

Re: Apple Event for iPhone 5 announcement on October 4th

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Post by calloc »

Justinwoop wrote: post #30
ceejayoz wrote: post #28

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Plenty of iPhone 1 customers gave up 3G. The phone landscape has certainly changed, but I don't see it as that hard a sell.

Plenty of iPhone customers also give 3G by using the device on T-Mobile. There aren't that many of them though compared to the number of people who switched to AT&T (or Verizon) just as there weren't that many people who bought the iPhone 1.

I am one of them. I've got my phone jail broken and on T-Mobile's network so that I don't have to deal with AT&T (unfortunately that is going away).

The EDGE speeds are not half bad actually, when browsing on the iPhone itself they are a tad slow, but over bluetooth to my iPad for example I notice it slightly, but it doesn't really bother me.

Re: Apple Event for iPhone 5 announcement on October 4th

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Post by seanalltogether »

stuartjmoore wrote: post #55
twodayslate wrote: post #53

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I highly doubt there will be a larger screen. They won't force developers to code for another screen resolution and they won't want to lose the retina.

I'm guessing the screen resulation will stay the same, just put on a larger screen. But, this creates a smaller DPI and kind of ruins the retina display.

The current resolution is 326 PPI. I would imagine as long as they stay above 300 they will be kosher.

Re: Apple Event for iPhone 5 announcement on October 4th

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Post by evilduck »

mortenjorck wrote: post #48
zyb09 wrote: post #7

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Okay here's my prediction from last year, maybe this time I'll be right: Translucent Home-Button (maybe out of glass). Contains multiple color LEDs for notification system. If you get an email your Home-Button 'pulses' green and so on.

Unlikely, but ambient visual notification is on my wishlist as well. If Apple does implement it, my guess is a single-color, white LED backlighting the roundrect label on the home button. "Pulse home button" becomes an additional on/off switch for each app's notifications in Notification Center.

Apple does have patents for it already: http://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2011/04/apple-bl...

So it's not entirely out of the question.

Re: Apple Event for iPhone 5 announcement on October 4th

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Post by scdc »

mdasen wrote: post #33
ansy wrote: post #21

By most accounts the iPhone 5 will not have LTE. That's going to sting with Verizon customers in the United States. While it will probably support HSPA+ on AT&T which is already decently fast, Verizon CDMA is direly slow. It will be a hard sell to get Verizon customers to pass up LTE for the next two years when there are already a few really good Android phones with LTE and most major cities have LTE coverage right n…

I agree with the sentiment, but to play devil's advocate: Last quarter Verizon had a couple LTE Android handsets. They sold 1.2M LTE devices (both handsets and modems) while they sold 2.3M iPhones. The iPhone 5 will be coming 1-2 quarters later, but a lack of LTE might not be as big a deal for the majority of users as it is for, well, people who read this site. Verizon should be posting third quarter numbers in a mon…

demand for the iPad 2 made the iPhone5 components (A5 chip) in short supply. I'm guessing the phone design has been finished, and they just were waiting for the supply of components to get better.

Re: Apple Event for iPhone 5 announcement on October 4th

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Post by eropple »

rkudeshi wrote: post #36
nupark2 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a very technology-focused individual, and yet, I only have a passing awareness of what LTE is or why I should care about it. I'm happy enough with 3G as-is, and I'd actually want faster mobile processors before I wanted more bandwidth. If I'm unfamiliar and ambivalent, I really doubt the public at large is going to even notice.

I'm in the same boat. EDGE speeds were painfully slow, but 3G is more than good enough. Unless you're streaming from Netflix or downloading large files, I don't think LTE will make much of a difference to the vast majority of consumers.

Netflix streams pretty well over 3G, at least to an iPhone (I would think the quality would be more noticeably ugly on an iPad).

Re: Apple Event for iPhone 5 announcement on October 4th

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Post by rsynnott »

jemeshsu wrote: post #4

Expected: A5 CPU, higher spec CMOS camera. Let's hope it has larger screen, longer battery life, Bluetooth 4, faster 801n. Or maybe NFC chip for wallet type application? I suspect Square people already has some insight. Its more than iPhone 5 event: iOS 5, iCloud, new iPod touch, new iPod refreshes or even new Apple TV. Updated: Not sure why its voted down. I don't work for Apple.

> larger screen

Highly unlikely. They couldn't make it much bigger without either making it uncomfortably close to the device border, or making the device bigger.

> longer battery life

Quite likely. The iPad 2 has better battery life than the original iPad, with a very similar battery. They might be able to get in a process shrink for the iPhone 5, too.

> faster 801n

As I understand it, this would require multiple antennae, so probably not likely for space reasons.

Re: Apple Event for iPhone 5 announcement on October 4th

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Post by rsynnott »

ansy wrote: post #21

By most accounts the iPhone 5 will not have LTE. That's going to sting with Verizon customers in the United States. While it will probably support HSPA+ on AT&T which is already decently fast, Verizon CDMA is direly slow. It will be a hard sell to get Verizon customers to pass up LTE for the next two years when there are already a few really good Android phones with LTE and most major cities have LTE coverage right n…

It's hard to see how it _could_ have LTE without severely hurting battery life (a big no-no), with current chipsets. And yep, it really doesn't matter that much; in most countries HSPA+ is of far more interest for the time being, and I assume it'll have that. Verizon is a pretty small slice of the iPhone market.

Re: Apple Event for iPhone 5 announcement on October 4th

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Post by rsynnott »

ben1040 wrote: post #40
ansy wrote: post #21

By most accounts the iPhone 5 will not have LTE. That's going to sting with Verizon customers in the United States. While it will probably support HSPA+ on AT&T which is already decently fast, Verizon CDMA is direly slow. It will be a hard sell to get Verizon customers to pass up LTE for the next two years when there are already a few really good Android phones with LTE and most major cities have LTE coverage right n…

I have a Verizon Thunderbolt, and the battery life absolutely sucks compared to the iPhone 4. AnandTech did a great comparison [1]. The other 3 phones on their LTE lineup are all huge too, with equally bad battery life (maybe with the exception of the new Droid Bionic, which some reviews say has OK battery life but still nowhere near the iPhone 4). The other dimension besides battery life is size, and all their LTE p…

Wow, hadn't realised it was THAT bad. That's unusable, surely?
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