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Re: YouTube: Due to limited creator history we're limiting the number of views

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Post by Izkata »

logicalmonster wrote: post #42
fortran77 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to comments on reddit, it was on an anti-vax livestream that was pushing a line of products from a brand-new account. This message only shows up on live streams.

> anti-vax livestream Is it possible to get more nuanced clarity on this? The word "anti-vax" used to mean one thing, but today can refer to somebody who is against mandates.

The screenshot in GG(G?)P that they called an anti-vax protest was of the truckers in Canada; that's an anti-mandate protest, not an anti-vax one.

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

marmarama wrote: post #52
tomschlick wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Hope Youtube doesn't become just another mouthpiece for only government approved narratives like TV. This is already the case. Things like the lab leak theory were getting people banned for months before it suddenly became ok to talk about once the mainstream news channels started talking about it. This is why the label "misinformation" is dangerous. Anything can be deemed misinformation depending on who the fact c…

In 2020, the lab leak theory was dangerous and unhelpful. The incumbent at the White House was easily swayed into acting rashly without thinking too hard, and the whole world was dependent on very limited supplies of PPE and biotech equipment that mostly came from China. In 2022, the lab leak theory isn't so dangerous to talk about, and China is making waves about Taiwan. It's all about the time and the place. Someti…

What does "conspiracy" mean to you, exactly? If the biomedical research community covered up an idea they thought might be true in order to support a political strategy, I'd consider that almost the canonical example of a conspiracy. Maybe it was a good political strategy, maybe it was serving an important goal - the bottom line would still be that you can't trust what they say because they might have secretly decided that it's best to deceive you.

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Post by jeffalo »

aquova wrote: post #11

First off, I'd like to see some additional proof that this isn't a hoax. There's other people in that thread claiming it's real, but I have yet to see anything other than the image posted. Assuming it is real however, this is another baffling decision Youtube has made in recent months. I assume the thought behind this is to try maximize their walled garden in some way, but unlike other sites Youtube has such a long h…

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Post by theknocker »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #2

Does anyone have more context? Or a link to a video showing this issue? This Reddit thread only seems to have a screenshot (though I didn’t scour the entire comment section). I’ve never seen this in the wild, and technically without a link I still haven’t seen it live at all. I’m wondering if the channel triggered some sort of anti-spam mechanism. EDIT: The only source I can find is from screenshots of right-wing Twi…

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Post by 33ultra »

33ultra wrote: post #60
svnpenn wrote: post #38

This is fine. This is YouTube trying to curb antivax bullshit, which is a good idea > protests, since they were organized by truckers opposed to Covid vaccine mandates. https://reclaimthenet.org/youtube-capping-viewer-limits/

Which is a good idea for you. Maybe create or install a nanny-filter. It is not a good idea for me. If I want official information, I know where to find it. If I want to read about young men getting a heart attack one week after taking a vaccine, if I want to see how the pandemic is forming in China before going global, if I want to know how Indians combated flu epidemics with flavanoids, then I need to pass by the g…

These downvotes remind me about downvotes 2 years back, when I was here on HackerNews talking about leaky vaccines, vaccination-driven variants of concern, and COVID eventually turning endemic (without or without human intervention), impossible to ever remove.

There are people still on HackerNews right now, who were back then talking about overreactions, and it just being a flu, and that masks promote xenophobia and do nothing. That must weigh really heavy on their mind, or perhaps they got with (vaccination) program, and if you downvote it quickly, it does not exist to bother your own manipulated decision-making gaffe.

Yes, I am saying a horrible thing: you want to mandate a treatment for non-at-risk people, which can give them permanent damage or even cause death. But what is more concerning? Me saying a horrible thing? Or you condemning a pregnant woman to miscarriage, because the message needs to be that the vaccine is 100% safe?

Stuck between censor-happy left, and anti-science right, and both reduce my right and duty to be an informed citizen.

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Post by okfuckyou »

rwmj wrote: post #50
sennight wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What you are asking for is already widely available: network television. I don't see how it is a good thing that Google has adopted more and more of the negative aspects of the old system, but they certainly have been busy doing so for the last few years. You know a very good way to control what is and is not part of the public discourse? Allow only those with a lot to lose the privilege of speaking. Those creators w…

You realise that you can set up your own web server and livestream as much as you like (and can afford) from that to as many people as you want? Youtube doesn't owe you free bandwidth.

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Post by tomschlick »

zozbot234 wrote: post #57
tomschlick wrote: post #54

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Ah so lets suppress the truth when it's convenient and bring it back out when it's politically advantageous for your party. That doesn't seem dangerous to you? It's quite literally propaganda and the stuff that tin foil hat loonies have been warning about for years... If that's where we are at politically I guess they weren't so crazy after all.

Lab leak theory is not "the truth". It's still very much a minority POV. And either way, it seems clear by now that the virus has originated in an animal reservoir and that similar things happen all the time.

In my experience, its very much not a minority POV. Almost no one I talk to thinks its a coincidence that a novel coronavirus with unique characteristics just so happened to pop up in a city with the only BSL-4 laboratory in hundreds of miles which works specifically with bat coronaviruses.

I don't think anyone reputable is saying that anything was intentionally released, but I think its quite obvious at this point that something was accidentally released and the CCP is very focused on covering it up to save face.

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Post by emerged »

causi wrote: post #58
hnburnsy wrote: post #55

From Google support... https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9228390 >Requirements To live stream on mobile, you’ll need: At least 50 subscribers. No live streaming restrictions within the last 90 days on your channel. To verify your channel. To enable live streaming. You may need to wait 24 hours before you can start your first live stream. An Android 5.0+ device. >Why is my mobile live stream’s audience limited…

So basically a big old "fuck you" to anyone witnessing a noteworthy event. No citizen journalism allowed.

Live footage of an event actually happening is “misinformation” from their perspective.

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Post by monetus »

33ultra wrote: post #65
33ultra wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which is a good idea for you. Maybe create or install a nanny-filter. It is not a good idea for me. If I want official information, I know where to find it. If I want to read about young men getting a heart attack one week after taking a vaccine, if I want to see how the pandemic is forming in China before going global, if I want to know how Indians combated flu epidemics with flavanoids, then I need to pass by the g…

These downvotes remind me about downvotes 2 years back, when I was here on HackerNews talking about leaky vaccines, vaccination-driven variants of concern, and COVID eventually turning endemic (without or without human intervention), impossible to ever remove. There are people still on HackerNews right now, who were back then talking about overreactions, and it just being a flu, and that masks promote xenophobia and…

I get the sense you are strung out. - there are way more lurkers than those who comment - a reminder to try not to extrapolate too much from those who do. Hell, I've found myself in arguments with eugenecists on this site. With the weight of viral worries, the megaphone of a public forum has people nervous, you should expect strong reactions to anything negative about vaccines; people perceive negatives more than positives. Just be honest about what you do and don't know, cite sources that you've tried to understand, and take vitriol in stride. The pregnancy thing for instance - now lurkers have to Google things for themselves and may end up on some save the children propaganda site

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Post by judge2020 »

hnburnsy wrote: post #55

From Google support... https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9228390 >Requirements To live stream on mobile, you’ll need: At least 50 subscribers. No live streaming restrictions within the last 90 days on your channel. To verify your channel. To enable live streaming. You may need to wait 24 hours before you can start your first live stream. An Android 5.0+ device. >Why is my mobile live stream’s audience limited…

the spam being targeted https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=elon+crypto&sp=...
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