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Free Postgres databases for small projects

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Re: Free Postgres databases for small projects

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Post by mrkurt »

mooreds wrote: post #58
mrkurt wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You know, you're not really missing anything, we just don't connect the dots very well. Install CLI, run `fly launch` in a directory with a Dockerfile, and it should just work. Most of our users don't start with a Docker image though, they start with Phoenix. What you're seeing is a little bit of indecisiveness in how we target the docs.

Thanks! I'd rather run with a defined image, is there a way to do that? Here's the image: https://hub.docker.com/r/fusionauth/fusionauth-app/tags (supports ARM or x86). Edit: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30019258 shows, I think, how to do that.

Ah, for this you want "fly launch", it'll tell you it's going to generate a config file for you.

Edit the config so the `internal_port` is right for the app you're running, then `fly deploy -i fusionauth/fusionauth-app` and you should be good.

Re: Free Postgres databases for small projects

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Post by tobyjsullivan »

awb wrote: post #49
tylerchr wrote: post #6

> We've had a free tier since we launched ten years ago (in 2020). I’m not a Fly.io customer (although more and more I am thinking I should be), but I eagerly read every new blog post because I’m so entertained by their tone. These people are clearly having fun at work.

> since we launched ten years ago (in 2020). 2010?

I assumed this was a binary joke gone wrong.

Re: Free Postgres databases for small projects

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Post by sergiotapia »

We are going to migrate to Fly.io very soon. We are very excited about the prospect of Elixir, Phoenix and Liveview running close to our users with NONE of the javascript headaches. I've hit the eject button on javascript and won't be coming back.

This free tier of database will make it easier for everyone to test the waters at Fly.

Re: Free Postgres databases for small projects

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Post by onphonenow »

mooreds wrote: post #51
lewisl9029 wrote: post #28

I'm so glad Fly exists. Every other edge focused thing out there I'm aware of are "serverless" which these days basically means they charge per request. That's fine for a lot of use cases, but the unit economics of the per request pricing model means it's really hard to operate a predictably sustainable (i.e. profitable) business without also charging our customers on a usage basis, or enforcing limits on usage, neit…

For a company that says it makes it super easy to deploy a container image and mentions that all you need to do "Write your code, package it into a Docker image, deploy it to Fly's platform"[0], they sure have a dearth of documentation on how to deploy an existing docker container. I am not sure if I'm missing something or what, but here's where I looked: * googled 'docker fly' and a blog post that references docker…

I agree - could be clearer!

Re: Free Postgres databases for small projects

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Post by onphonenow »

mrkurt wrote: post #40
leerob wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like Fly is moving to usage-based pricing: https://twitter.com/mrkurt/status/1475310487864848391

This is true, but we aren't going to bill per request. We really can't, since we support arbitrary UDP and TCP services. I don't really want to promise anything we haven't shipped yet. But my perfect cloud service (a) charges me when VMs are alive and (b) gives me the tools I need to create/remove/stop/start/suspend/resume VMs based on either network activity or metrics. One flaw of Fly.io right now is that it's rela…

I actually worry you are undervaluing yourselves. $50 is fine for 10 regions as a data point from where I sit though I wouldn’t object to less

Re: Free Postgres databases for small projects

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Post by dmw_ng »

mrkurt wrote: post #40
leerob wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like Fly is moving to usage-based pricing: https://twitter.com/mrkurt/status/1475310487864848391

This is true, but we aren't going to bill per request. We really can't, since we support arbitrary UDP and TCP services. I don't really want to promise anything we haven't shipped yet. But my perfect cloud service (a) charges me when VMs are alive and (b) gives me the tools I need to create/remove/stop/start/suspend/resume VMs based on either network activity or metrics. One flaw of Fly.io right now is that it's rela…

Would love to know what kind of approach you're taking for usage-based. Cold start every time, or some container/criu/VM suspend/resume magic?

Re: Free Postgres databases for small projects

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Post by shroompasta »

I'm having trouble understanding the purpose of these edge services.

Granted, I've only handled small - medium sized infrastructures, and never really experienced the issues at scale, but if I were to get to that point, wouldn't it be easier to just hire a Infrastructure Engineer who could deal with the replication / sharding, not to mention having that engineer also deal with site reliability and dev ops?

If a user wants to hit my service, and then that service has to hit fly.io's postgres, isn't that an increase in latency? sure I could probably have it pretty darn close, but 20-100ms is still 20-100ms. I could manage my own (or hire someone), and have the db live in the same container (if i have a big enough box), or have it within the same data center.

And if it is the case that I do need to replicate across data centers, at that point, I should have the financial capabilities to hire an infra engineer.

Can anyone enlighten me why I would ever need this?

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