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My first three months with a Nokia dumb phone as a daily driver

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Re: My first three months with a Nokia dumb phone as a daily driver

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Ouch. I do have smartphone but do not have data plan. Use it strictly as a phone, camera and offline GPS. It has close to zero social value to me. If I want to socialize I either talk to my friends on Skype from my PC or just visiting in person.

No music?

FM Radio ;).

Re: My first three months with a Nokia dumb phone as a daily driver

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Is there a way to install an OTP auth app on a Nokia feature phone?

If you're talking about things like TOTP token apps, I'd expect there to be a possibility to do that. The protocol isn't that complex, so worst case you can write your own. (I've ported the TOTP protocol to get a 6 digit nixie clock to generate my tokens, lol) The more fancy ones that pop up a message (like in iOS or with Google Play Services) probably won't be supported.

Thanks! I did a further search and found these:

- KaiAuth https://www.reddit.com/r/KaiOS/comments/ft0jjn/kaiauth_simpl...

- GAuth by gbrad (https://kaptein.me/blog/porting-converting-web-apps-website-...)

- https://github.com/fwenzel/firekey

For some reason, when the KaiAuth developer tried to submit it into the KaiOS app store, KaiOStech rejected it because it doesn't "match the use case for majority of our users".

Re: My first three months with a Nokia dumb phone as a daily driver

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How long battery lasts, 20 minutes?

My Series 7 lasts all day and a night. Charges super fast. I've also found myself using it as a 'dumb but useful phone'. Having Apple Pay / train tickets on it has been surprisingly useful. The activity tracking has been surprisingly motivating. Hard recommend.

How does train tickets work? I’m in europe, and havn’t really looked into it… do you “share” the tickets to the wallet app? You have a “train” app on your watch? Just show a qr code in an email? Been wanting to set this up for a while…

Re: My first three months with a Nokia dumb phone as a daily driver

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This is not a "dumbphone"; those don't exist anymore now that the 3G networks have been turned off. This "dumb" phone has an entire main-CPU OS, a web browser (!), and then another entire OS on the modem chip (which, of course, runs code which you have absolutely no influence over). I miss dumbphones.

It's entirely possible to build a 'dumbphone' with a nano sized linux SBC(like a Pi zero) and a 4G add-on board.

You'd really have to want to do this though, but it would be a good learning project.

Re: My first three months with a Nokia dumb phone as a daily driver

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Life is too short to waste distracted by a smartphone. I prefer to use a the large screen and keyboard of a laptop for communication. I am still using a 2G phone with a B&W display for emergencies, for example if I get lost or held up meeting friends. Even then I'll have discussed a contingency with them - the old-fashioned way. I pay next to nothing to keep the account open, and the tap-texting naturally limits my d…

Did you never get a smartphone (in a way most people do) or have you gone back to good ol days ? If former, what other ways you've adapted for essential stuff that need a smart device. If later, do you ever plan on getting a smartphone again ?

My sister has a typical android smartphone and says the screen is too small for youtube and web browsing and prefers a notebook for those tasks.

Re: My first three months with a Nokia dumb phone as a daily driver

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Can you share more advice for a 23 year old who wants to dump the "social internet?"

Happy to. It requires being willing to change anything in your life to make the whole thing better. That is frightening. A smartphone and social media can end up being a kind of security blanket, it gives you a cheap dopamine hit, so remind yourself that cowboys did without not long ago. Religious Jews still give it up for a day and a night every week, getting together to eat and talk face to face, and maybe play a b…

I grew up with SM my whole life. I discovered that in a way became my safe space. Meaning that when i want to procrastinate because i fear doing something ( fear failure. Like right now that i want to study for my exams) i turn to that. When i close the tabs i feel a sense of what i will do now and i major FOMO. Maybe i built up an behavioral addiction. I don't question browsing on fb, twitter, hn but i question why i want to read this book and if it's pointless.

Re: My first three months with a Nokia dumb phone as a daily driver

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I'd buy a Nokia 3210 if the _ONLY_ upgrades were: 1. (even) better battery, 2. (even) less power consumption, 3. (even) better signal reception and (4) support for modern phone providers (so I can actually make calls and send texts with it no matter where I am).

I don't want a new display, case, operating system software or anything else, and that's why the 3310 falls short.

Re: My first three months with a Nokia dumb phone as a daily driver

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Happy to. It requires being willing to change anything in your life to make the whole thing better. That is frightening. A smartphone and social media can end up being a kind of security blanket, it gives you a cheap dopamine hit, so remind yourself that cowboys did without not long ago. Religious Jews still give it up for a day and a night every week, getting together to eat and talk face to face, and maybe play a b…

I grew up with SM my whole life. I discovered that in a way became my safe space. Meaning that when i want to procrastinate because i fear doing something ( fear failure. Like right now that i want to study for my exams) i turn to that. When i close the tabs i feel a sense of what i will do now and i major FOMO. Maybe i built up an behavioral addiction. I don't question browsing on fb, twitter, hn but i question why…

Dare to make mistakes in getting good at yourself. People won't care or even remember them.

Re: My first three months with a Nokia dumb phone as a daily driver

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As others have mentioned, this is not really a dumb phone. Sure it puts some more _friction_ into using modern Internet connected services, but you can still basically do everything a modern phone can do (it has a full modern browser). Heck you even get the modern experience of ads everywhere despite the limited screen and memory (the ads are all modal pages)! In fact, much of the review centers around "smart" featur…

You can do some things but I wouldn't stretch it and say you can "basically do everything a modern phone can do" because in my country I can't use it to identify myself, I can't do banking on it, I can't ride the bus, buy tickets for trains, make payments and a lot of other very essential things that are now in our smartphones.
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