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Work Somewhere Dysfunctional

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Re: Work Somewhere Dysfunctional

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> Unfortunately, places with hard problems that haven’t been solved are also — inevitably — kind of dysfunctional. I disagree wholeheartedly. Many companies (from big tech to fast growing startups) have hard problems that need solving, and they needn't be dysfunctional. In fact some high performing organisations have plenty of hard problems, as solving hard problems usually yield even harder problems to solve. Sadly…

Most dysfunctional places are also not producing much of value . I’ve been at many shitty companies and there was nothing to learn other than the leadership had some personality disorders

Re: Work Somewhere Dysfunctional

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post #7

There’s really no good reason to stick your neck out at a dysfunctional place. It’s like that for a reason. You might get grit from the experience, but more likely you’ll just become a bitter cynical husk. I know, I worked at Oracle.

Eh, was semi rewarded myself for sticking my neck out at Oracle, rest of my team was let go, I was rewarded for my good attitude and small expertise just for showing up where previous coworkers couldn't. Reward was that I got to keep my job and watch my other coworkers told to take a hike... The challenge then became how to drop my cynicism more than how to work the dysfunctional org.

Getting to keep your job at Oracle seems to have been the real punishment here.

Re: Work Somewhere Dysfunctional

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OK fine, but "dysfunctional places" just automatically and glibly equals "the government?" Dysfunctional places, "i.e." the government? Assuming the best, probably she just means "the one dysfunctional government agency I worked in and have been blogging about forever." I have to actively & intentionally reach for that explanation because otherwise it just rubs me the wrong way I guess, because of its resemblance to, among other things, a sloppy extrapolation/generalization by a young person who should endeavor to vacate my domesticated blade-leafed-plant-dominated steppe-biome reserve; a boring old joke along the lines of "I learned all my bullshit-detection skills from working with dishonest people, i.e. lawyers." ("Oh thanks a lot!" says every honest lawyer); or a tired talking-point of the hypocritical and unhinged faux-libertarian radical "government bad! always!" right.

The secret to maintaining a vital mental landscape is to resist the temptation to think the whole world conforms to what you've seen so far in your short-ass life. Be content to "know" a lot less, and probably say less as a result. Ice Cube once rapped something about "shut my M.F. mouth if I don't know" and that seems like a pretty good policy, though if everyone did it, there would be a lot fewer blog posts in the world, unfortunately (or fortunately?)

Re: Work Somewhere Dysfunctional

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post #59

> People who want to study earthquakes need to go where there are fault lines. People who want to solve hard problems need to go where those problems live. People who want to study earthquakes don't get paid by the earthquakes. Author works for a defense contractor. I'd need a ton of evidence that this particular defense contractor has the goal of doing something inherently safe with AI before I'd read the author's a…

The author also has a long history of working at many places that aren't defense contractors, and a great book on working with large legacy systems (read: Cobol, mainframes, et al but relevant to all developers) https://www.amazon.ca/Kill-Fire-Manage-Computer-Systems/dp/1...

Seismically active regions (e.g. California) absolutely have more earthquake experts than other places... I am not sure why that metaphor is singled out when the rest of the article is pretty clear its about finding the difference between a burning building and a building-set-on-fire.

Firefighters don't just read about fires, they practice with actual flames, too.

Re: Work Somewhere Dysfunctional

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Cannot read medium without an account. Can we ban it already ?

Blocking cookies lets you read away without any problems. If you're using Chrome, go to the website, click the small padlock in the URL bar, select cookies, and then block all the ones for Medium.

That's ridiculous for reading some blog post.

Re: Work Somewhere Dysfunctional

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> The value of working for a dysfunctional organization, the place where people build the most skills, is in getting hands-on experience fixing problems. Even if you don’t in fact fix them… and you won’t have enough control to fix everything. Even in situations where you have the authority to execute, you can’t control the ripple effects of your changes. Maybe you’ll accomplish something, maybe you won’t.

I'd definitely agree that you'll build the most skills at a dysfunctional place. The type of skills you learn are typically the opposite of what makes an established organization work though. There's a common saying of "work the people, then the problem". The challenge here is that when majority of your work is to improve the culture, the actual skills you were hired for start to slowly take the back seat.

I don't agree that being selfish is going to help you at all. In fact, being selfish is the exact reason why most organizations are dysfunctional. Here's one that comes off the top of my head. Say you're a line engineering manager and you're incentivized to deliver a large feature that year by your manager who is largely clueless of what your group is doing. But, the whole team realizes that the feature you're incentivized to deliver is not in the best interests of the team right now. What do you do with your role power? Most people will selfishly get that feature implemented to get their max bonus & rewards that year. That type of behavior breeds more dysfunction.

Here's a whole list of dysfunction: output over outcomes, obsession with internal metrics, lack of customer research, optimizing everything for little gain, shipping features like an assembly line, over-dependence on data/spreadsheets, fast paced twist and turns of work, over-engineering, trying to keep everyone happy, flip-flop decision making from people with role power.

Re: Work Somewhere Dysfunctional

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I had the same opinion and tried to do this.

Spent a decade in big tech surrounded by dysfunction, pushing truly innovative tech through the muck to release and expending significant effort to clean the muck as I went for myself and others. Now I'm just burnt out, jaded, and trying to exit tech altogether.

At the end of the day if a direct line cannot be drawn between a problem (or its solution) and revenue, then management doesn't care and are not capable of filling in that line in their minds. And if you fill it in for them, you'll get at most a pat on the back.

Re: Work Somewhere Dysfunctional

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That's a hard No!

One of my jobs had the dysfunction cranked to 11 with politics (government and inter-office). I can honestly say that screwed me up for a good long while. It took two job switches to be normal again. You don't realize how far down you are until an outside observer points out you haven't smiled in months.

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