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AeroFS (YC S10): It’s Like Dropbox, But It Runs Inside Your Firewall

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Re: AeroFS (YC S10): It’s Like Dropbox, But It Runs Inside Your Firewall

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The problem is if me and Joe use Dropbox for personal use, and then we come up with a great startup idea and want to start hacking on it. On like day 5 of working on this idea, you'll want to start sharing/saving some PDFs or excel sheets or something. Ideally you'd be able to create a new Dropbox for this project and run two clients on your machine, one for your personal Dropbox and one for your new project Dropbox,…

I don't understand, why can't you just create shared folders in your single Dropbox account and share them with whomever you like?

There is an option too in the right-click menu for sharing a folder. They may just have missed it. But the same button on the web based interface is clear enough, I suppose.

Re: AeroFS (YC S10): It’s Like Dropbox, But It Runs Inside Your Firewall

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One should note that Dropbox also transfer your files without the cloud if you happens to have those devices within the same private network.

Also, as much as I think, having some Java programs running at the background is the best idea. I have already got a Java background service running (Crashplan) and it holds up to 500MB after running a longer time. I have yet to receive an invite (msg me if you've got one!), however a native client/background service/daemon would always be welcomed.

Re: AeroFS (YC S10): It’s Like Dropbox, But It Runs Inside Your Firewall

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I've been watching AeroFS for a few months now, and it is a fascinating product that almost meets my needs. Just a few things keep me from using it, some of which I can't quite put my finger on enough to turn in to real feature requests on UserVoice.

- It crashes sometimes. I think it does this less frequently now, but its favorite time to crash is when I suspend & resume my laptop.

- Synchronization is a difficult problem to solve, and users need to have confidence that the software Does It Right. Somehow Dropbox achieves this, and I can't put my finger on how; I think part of it is the fact that conflicting files are duplicated and clearly marked. I haven't had conflicting syncs yet with AeroFS, so I'm not sure how it handles them, but I also haven't seen documentation on what happens. It's a combination of an algorithmic problem, which you presumably have solved, and a UI problem to demonstrate to the user that their data is safe and correct.

- It doesn't yet support ignores. There's a feature request for this, and I've upvoted it, so hopefully it's just a matter of time. When I'm syncing a source directory, I don't want the built files synced. Yes, there's version control, but it's really convenient to sync portions of my Eclipse workspace so I can transparently work on the same changes on both my laptop and workstation.

- I don't know how it works. There are two pieces of this that are interesting to me: the network topology and the crypto design. One of AeroFS's selling points is that your data is never shipped to the centralized cloud unless you explicitly use AeroFS cloud storage. However, as a privacy-conscious user, I would like to know exactly where my data is going, when, and how it is protected. Some data seems to be going to AeroFS's servers for coordination; what all data is? File lists, or just peer locations & names of libraries? A diagram what network connections are used and where data is shipped would help users such as myself understand where our data go and what the risk points are. Hopefully this can be documented without jeopardizing your special sauce/value-add. For the crypto side, it would be useful to know exactly what crypto algorithms are in use, where, and in what configurations. Some providers claim Great Crypto, and then they're using Blowfish. You've got some of this - your Features page discusses the use of the 2048-bit RSA keys. But how is the "secure channel" established? How are the RSA keys secured against theft (e.g. the Dropbox steal-the-auth-DB hack)? The crypto documentation could be overlaid on the network infrastructure documentation. In short - why should I believe the security claims? With things like this, I think extensive transparency is the best way to engender trust with your users, particularly when your competition is criticized for transparency-related issues (e.g. the encryption "misunderstanding" with Dropbox).

I think AeroFS has a lot of promise, and I want you guys to succeed. We need some good, secure, strongly-privacy-preserving competition in the cloud file sync space.

Re: AeroFS (YC S10): It’s Like Dropbox, But It Runs Inside Your Firewall

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post #63

I've been watching AeroFS for a few months now, and it is a fascinating product that almost meets my needs. Just a few things keep me from using it, some of which I can't quite put my finger on enough to turn in to real feature requests on UserVoice. - It crashes sometimes. I think it does this less frequently now, but its favorite time to crash is when I suspend & resume my laptop. - Synchronization is a difficult p…

Update: they have some network documentation here: http://ae.ro/m3bHKs

And have responded to a feature request for documentation here, so hopefully we see it soonish: http://vote.aerofs.com/forums/67721-feature-requests/suggest...

Re: AeroFS (YC S10): It’s Like Dropbox, But It Runs Inside Your Firewall

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post #17

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If you implement one feature, I will switch immediately: multiple accounts running at the same time. I want to be able to sync my work stuff completely separate from my personal stuff. No "Shared Folders" solution or jazz like that. Dropbox seems totally unwilling to support this officially, so if you did, that'd be an awesome differentiator.

I'm not sure if this is exactly what you mean, but, last time I checked (a while ago) you could share different folders with different computers. For example, you could make a "work" share and sync it only with coworkers, and a "personal" share and sync it with your personal computers.

The issue is that it's being shared from the same account. I know about Shared Folders and use them extensively.

In a nutshell, here's what I want: - Install Dropbox - configure account #1 : mypersonalemail@example.com - configure account #2 : myworkemail@example.com

I don't want anyone at work seeing my personal email because it is, well, personal. No-one at work should need to know about my personal stuff unless it really is personal. Dropbox doesn't seem to understand the value of this.

I want to keep my work life and my personal life separate and many new services don't seem to understand or value this.

Re: AeroFS (YC S10): It’s Like Dropbox, But It Runs Inside Your Firewall

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post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure if this is exactly what you mean, but, last time I checked (a while ago) you could share different folders with different computers. For example, you could make a "work" share and sync it only with coworkers, and a "personal" share and sync it with your personal computers.

The issue is that it's being shared from the same account. I know about Shared Folders and use them extensively. In a nutshell, here's what I want: - Install Dropbox - configure account #1 : mypersonalemail@example.com - configure account #2 : myworkemail@example.com I don't want anyone at work seeing my personal email because it is, well, personal. No-one at work should need to know about my personal stuff unless it…

Ah, now I see what you mean... I circumvented this by using my work email to have invitations sent to, but accepting them from my personal account. I'm not sure if the people in the share can see my email address, though.

Re: AeroFS (YC S10): It’s Like Dropbox, But It Runs Inside Your Firewall

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post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The issue is that it's being shared from the same account. I know about Shared Folders and use them extensively. In a nutshell, here's what I want: - Install Dropbox - configure account #1 : mypersonalemail@example.com - configure account #2 : myworkemail@example.com I don't want anyone at work seeing my personal email because it is, well, personal. No-one at work should need to know about my personal stuff unless it…

Ah, now I see what you mean... I circumvented this by using my work email to have invitations sent to, but accepting them from my personal account. I'm not sure if the people in the share can see my email address, though.

That's what I want to avoid - I prefer to not have to think about it at all.
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