Live data from Hacker News

Approved Cameras

partnerhelp.netflixstudios.com

61–70 of 315 posts

Re: Approved Cameras

#61
post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the center channel is often just played out of both speakers Well what other option do you have when there are only two speakers? Only play it out of one?

A separate stereo audio mix.

How else would you mix the dialogue except to come out of both speakers though?

Re: Approved Cameras

#62

This means Netflix operates as a production and post studio for their many and talented film-makers. The stuff with the red N on the poster -- some of it is REALLY good -- uses Netflix-operated handling. Any video production goes through a lot of steps from raw studio footage to edited, finished product. This web site says that Netflix processes and people handle a lot of that. Also it looks like 4K is their minimum…

When you used actual film it was long lengths of the stuff, hence footage. Lots of words have weird no longer relevant sources. Like “logs”.

Thank you. Now I understand why it’s "métrage” in French, and also why a “long métrage” means a long movie!

Re: Approved Cameras

#63
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wild volume swings, insane punches for explosions but silent dialogue.

It’s SOP for Hollywood. Sad we’re not getting Real Innovation around this problem.

Blueray supports downmix metadata that I think lets you mix volumes with the full 6x2 matrix, and I don't remember if there's EQ but there may be. Also a 5.1 AV is like 500 bucks if you have the space. I don't think what other innovations you need. The technology to stream different audio streams and let the user choose is there.

Thing is most studios now do only one mix for theaters and also most streaming providers don't give many fucks about audio. It's not an innovation problem it's a product problem.

Re: Approved Cameras

#64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When the sound design is targeted for 5.1, most of the dialogue comes from the center speaker. This is great if you have one. However if its downmixed on the fly (ie done on the client side) the center channel is often just played out of both speakers. This means that sound can be muffled, because its drowned out by the incidental noise that comes from the left/right channel.

> the center channel is often just played out of both speakers Well what other option do you have when there are only two speakers? Only play it out of one?

The center channel needs to be made louder in the mixdown to 2 channels

Re: Approved Cameras

#65
post #49

This means Netflix operates as a production and post studio for their many and talented film-makers. The stuff with the red N on the poster -- some of it is REALLY good -- uses Netflix-operated handling. Any video production goes through a lot of steps from raw studio footage to edited, finished product. This web site says that Netflix processes and people handle a lot of that. Also it looks like 4K is their minimum…

> I bet the higher resolution makes it easier, with big*ss GPUs to clean up the raw footage. Even if you don't do any other post-processing, downscaled video looks better than video captured at sensor resolution. This is because you can implement a steeper low-pass filter (closer to ideal brick-wall filter) in software than you can in actual optics. Hardware lowpass filters tuned to block most stuff above nyquist wil…

It was always standard to acquire at higher resolution than being delivered. Hell, they shot 35mm film for SD for decades, 16mm for non-extravagent budgets.

The first use of 4k wasn't for 4k delivery, but for single camera shoot of talking head reframing. Full frame for the wide, cropped in for the MED/CU shots. Larger image also allows for cleaner image stabilization. Allows for more detail on pulling keys in post, etc.

There are lots of benefits from larger image than delivery.

Re: Approved Cameras

#66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you used actual film it was long lengths of the stuff, hence footage. Lots of words have weird no longer relevant sources. Like “logs”.

Not what I expected at all: log (n.2) "record of observations, readings, etc.," 1842, sailor's shortening of log-book "daily record of a ship's speed, progress, etc." (1670s), from log (n.1). The book so called because a wooden float at the end of a line was cast out to measure a ship's speed. General sense by 1913.* So it does have a relationship to the wooden log - it was originally a series of measurements from a…

See also the unit of speed for ships and aircraft, knots, after the knots tied in the line attached to the log.

Re: Approved Cameras

#68
It's too bad they don't screen their actual content with the same rigor as they do their technical side. I don't doubt their technical side is excellent.

Most of Netflix is utterly mindless garbage content for background consumption. I struggle to name even 5 of their originals over the years that you could call good "TV" or Cinema.

Black Mirror is the only one that really comes to mind.

Re: Approved Cameras

#69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the center channel is often just played out of both speakers Well what other option do you have when there are only two speakers? Only play it out of one?

The center channel needs to be made louder in the mixdown to 2 channels

But why can't that be done automatically from the 5.1 signal on the consumer's device?

Re: Approved Cameras

#70
post #29

I once thought about a high-end camera rental side business. Never really completed the research, but I am curious again... Do studios and creators own these cameras or they usually rent? Is there an aggregated marketplace where I could be able to put my camera for rent if I do eventually get one?

Renting out cameras might give you influencers or youtubers as customers, but for producing a feature film or a TV show the rentals include everything from lights,lenses to generator trucks, with the camera only being the very tip of the ice berg. Production companies will continue to go to the rental companies where they can get everything at once. For reference a look at the perhaps biggest rental company might give some perspective: https://www.arrirental.com/en
Post reply on HN