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Re: Utah tech executive resigns after anti-semitic email rant

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Post by tyingq »

throwawayboise wrote: post #51
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #13

This man is seriously unwell. This wasn't just normal politics - This was deep conspiracy theory nonsense. The fact that he thought others would appreciate the message is further proof that he is in the midst of a serious crisis. He has completely lost touch with reality. Unfortunately, being a wealthy ex-CEO and ex-pat living in another country, away from his former social circles, has likely removed all social supp…

Yeah I've never heard of him but saw that he was retired as CEO and wondering how old he is. Could be a sign of dementia or Alzheimers. Something has gone wrong in his head.

>Could be a sign of dementia or Alzheimers

He appears to be pretty young, see the photo at the top: https://forward.com/fast-forward/480359/david-bateman-entrat...

So, perhaps some other kind of mental illness. It was telling that he basically doubled down with a sort of "sorry, sorry, but it's still a Jewish plot" in his apology.

Edit: He's likely 42 or 43, based on some old (2002/2003) stories about founding the company after dropping out of BYU.

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Post by CamperBob2 »

TylerE wrote: post #25
mullingitover wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quoted post unavailable.

It really isn't. Most on the far right are very very very pro-Israel.

Because of Dominionist Christian theology, yes. Not because of any love or respect for Judaism or ethnic Jews.

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Post by andrew_ »

TylerE wrote: post #43
mullingitover wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The far right is a pretty splintered group, and when you look even a little to the right of principled centrists you quickly get into serious horseshoe political theory territory. The 'Bush republicans' are very pro-Israel, but the 'election was stolen, covid is a conspiracy' post-Trump republicans aren't from that generation and aren't nearly as rational.

The Trumpists are actually among the most pro-Israel, but it's mostly an "owning the libs" thing, not out of any actual love of Jews.

How can you possibly suppose to quantify this statement?

Re: Utah tech executive resigns after anti-semitic email rant

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Post by kej »

spike021 wrote: post #17
irrational wrote: post #5

Are these the same Jews that control the space laser used to start the California wild fires? So crazy.

I'm Jewish, how come I don't have access to this laser? I've loved lasers since I was a kid. Life isn't fair!

You can sign up here: https://dissentpins.com/products/secret-jewish-space-laser-c... (no relation, just a guy who appreciates funny merch ideas)

Re: Utah tech executive resigns after anti-semitic email rant

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Post by CamperBob2 »

ars wrote: post #55
TylerE wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Trumpists are actually among the most pro-Israel, but it's mostly an "owning the libs" thing, not out of any actual love of Jews.

> not out of any actual love of Jews. Other than, you know, his daughter? Who is Jewish? Or do you imagine he doesn't love his daughter?

His daughter is about as Jewish as ... never mind.

Re: Utah tech executive resigns after anti-semitic email rant

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Post by throwawayboise »

tyingq wrote: post #61
throwawayboise wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I've never heard of him but saw that he was retired as CEO and wondering how old he is. Could be a sign of dementia or Alzheimers. Something has gone wrong in his head.

>Could be a sign of dementia or Alzheimers He appears to be pretty young, see the photo at the top: https://forward.com/fast-forward/480359/david-bateman-entrat... So, perhaps some other kind of mental illness. It was telling that he basically doubled down with a sort of "sorry, sorry, but it's still a Jewish plot" in his apology. Edit: He's likely 42 or 43, based on some old (2002/2003) stories about founding the co…

Ah well, I guess not then. I imagined someone a lot older. Some form of schizophrenia perhaps.

Re: Utah tech executive resigns after anti-semitic email rant

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Post by toss1 »

version_five wrote: post #12

Having just read it, this sounds like a mental health issue to me. It's well outside the bounds of opinion, even a ridiculous or hateful opinion. I worry that people are running to mock this guy because they want to portray these views as the kind of things their opponents actually think, while in reality there is clearly something wrong with him and he may need some compassion. This is not a fringe opinion, there is…

If it is a mental health issue, then that issue affects a very substantial double-digit percentage of the population, something approximating the count of vax refusers. They don't believe in the same nuttery, but they do subscribe to one of the many flavors of anti-science aggression.

What is most fascinating and frightening is that there are many who, rather than understand that the world has serious random phenomena, or at least phenomena that are not yet fully explained (or the explanation is beyond their understanding), would choose to instead of believing scientists who spend their entire lives trying to sort it out, instead believe that there is some evil cabal of people responsible for the misery in their lives.

Re: Utah tech executive resigns after anti-semitic email rant

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Post by simplestats »

olliej wrote: post #20
version_five wrote: post #12

Having just read it, this sounds like a mental health issue to me. It's well outside the bounds of opinion, even a ridiculous or hateful opinion. I worry that people are running to mock this guy because they want to portray these views as the kind of things their opponents actually think, while in reality there is clearly something wrong with him and he may need some compassion. This is not a fringe opinion, there is…

Nah, it's fairly standard anti-semitism. It's not remotely outside the normal bounds.

It's not like he was caught by a hot mike or something. This guy widely sent out an emotional email to politicans and others pleading them to consider his "discovery". This in a world where you are advised to never say "you guys".

Re: Utah tech executive resigns after anti-semitic email rant

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Post by zozbot234 »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #13

This man is seriously unwell. This wasn't just normal politics - This was deep conspiracy theory nonsense. The fact that he thought others would appreciate the message is further proof that he is in the midst of a serious crisis. He has completely lost touch with reality. Unfortunately, being a wealthy ex-CEO and ex-pat living in another country, away from his former social circles, has likely removed all social supp…

> This wasn't just normal politics - This was deep conspiracy theory nonsense.

It's 2022 - Qanon-level nonsense is very much "normal politics" at present, however much we wish it weren't.

Re: Utah tech executive resigns after anti-semitic email rant

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Post by zozbot234 »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #62
TylerE wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It really isn't. Most on the far right are very very very pro-Israel.

Because of Dominionist Christian theology, yes. Not because of any love or respect for Judaism or ethnic Jews.

The Bible tells all of us as Christians to respect Jews as the Chosen People in the Old Covenant with God (HaShem), which indeed remains fully valid as to them-- and Judaism as the way they've chosen to worship Him. This is absolutely scriptural, and valid theology. By definition, people who don't love and respect Jews are falling far short of genuine Christianity.
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