Hong Kong pro-democracy Stand News shuts down after police raid, arrests

Post by jacquesm » Wed, Dec 29, 2021, 7:14 PM UTC

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Except this is about nation state behavior, context, and geopolitics spanning decades rather than some series of small unrelated events. See my other reply. I am not excusing the behavior of treaty breaking so much as I am saying their leadership has pressure to behave in this way due to the mandate to "right historical wrongs" versus their enemies who killed and attacked them. I am not the world's leading expert on…

You are suggesting that leadership decisions in China follow public opinion? Surely it is the other way around. The whole point of this story is that the CCP retains an iron grip on what the public does or doesn't learn.

Post by dang » Wed, Dec 29, 2021, 8:40 PM UTC

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Post by Paradigma11 » Thu, Dec 30, 2021, 12:01 AM UTC

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So you are saying that historical facts and context make china unable to enter binding agreements with western nations?

I wouldn't say that. I would argue this is a lot more like the WW1 relationship to WW2. The events are related to how the Chinese leadership feels pressure from their public to perform and stand up to adversaries. In short, China's leadership today has pressure to right historical wrongs. We, as Westerners, should work to understand them so that we can make sense of their behavior as a nation state. China has two maj…

Post by schleck8 » Thu, Dec 30, 2021, 3:09 AM UTC

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What is propaganda about this story? Not once have I read a noticeably biased piece from Reuters. That's because they are a wire service and sell to both sides of the political spectrum (including chinese state media by the way, you'll find reuters cited as source or they use the pre-made articles from reuters' news wire) https://africa.cgtn.com/author/reuters/ or https://america.cgtn.com/anchors-corresp/reuters

When it comes to coverage of major power conflicts between USA, China, Russia, India … Reuters absolutely has the bias and perspective of the west.

Post by DemocracyFTW » Thu, Dec 30, 2021, 11:42 AM UTC

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This is yet another violation of the Sino-British Joint Declaration, the treaty between China and the U.K. defining how Hong Kong will be handed over to China[1]: > Hong Kong would maintain its existing governing and economic systems separate from that of mainland China under the principle of "one country, two systems". The West needs to realize: China does not uphold its own treaties. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wi…

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