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The state of external retina displays

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Re: The state of external retina displays

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Post by CuriousSkeptic »

eckmLJE wrote: post #27
never_a-pickle wrote: post #13

The computer monitor market is at the mercy of gamers who want 1080p-1440p if it means getting 600fps in a game rather than 150fps at higher resolutions. It's why since 2015 there has been an arms race of refresh rates rather than of resolution. We had 4-5k panels at retina in 2015, market conditions could have had us with much higher quality panels if the entire thing wasn't catered to young, cash-strapped gamers wh…

Although you make an ok point, you're greatly exaggerating FPS. I'm on a beautiful 1440p 144hz LG and I really only need 150fps. This still often requires less-than-ultra video settings even with a 3080 ti. There is a very small niche of competitive gamers who want 240hz at 1080p and the fps that justifies it.

Oh there are people who want way more https://blurbusters.com/blur-busters-law-amazing-journey-to-...

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Post by indymike »

A lot of this depends on the distance of the monitor to your face. High actual DPI matters more if the screen is close to your eyes. Do a 24" 4k is great at close range, but if you move the screen 8in-12in back, a 32in 4K can work just as well.

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Post by bluewalt »

Another major issue not mentioned with non-retina displays is that you have to chose between a decent on-screen text size and pixel scaling.

For example, I use a a 4K 27" LG monitor. If I use native 4K resolution, the text is way too small. If I use 2:1 resolution, the text becomes too big and I lose real estate. I ended up with a scaled resolution with pixel approximation. I won't explain here why it may be a problem for some people, but it is.

Re: The state of external retina displays

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Post by minimaul »

conradev wrote: post #63

I will put another monitor into the mix because it is the first of its kind and might interest some: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1621993-REG/lg_27ep95... It is a full 27" OLED panel for $$$ ($3,000), but it is not the highest DPI at only 4K resolution

OLED isn't that great in the monitor space because you are going to get burn in, it's only a matter of 'how long?'.

Re: The state of external retina displays

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Post by brandonmenc »

henvic wrote: post #60

I really wanted the 27-inch LG UltraFine 5K ( https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27md5kl-b-5k-uhd-led-monit... ), but I heard many complains about it not being as reliable as you'd expect, then I decided to get the LG UltraFine 4K ( https://amzn.to/3qs2pFW ) a little over a year ago, and I don't regret at all spending so much more for a display, than I'd normally expect to. Now, I want to update to Apple's Pro Display…

I have owned the LG 5K UltraFine monitor for 6 months and it's the greatest thing ever. I will never go back to 4K.

I drive it with an OWC Thunderbolt 3 dock with CalDigit Thunderbolt cables and a maxed out 13" 2020 MacBook Pro, and as of the latest version of macOS Big Sur it is rock solid.

It's mounted on a monitor arm, so I can't comment on the included stand.

Re: The state of external retina displays

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Post by d136o »

alin23 wrote: post #3

Yep, having the same problem. I'd love an Ultrawide with comparable pixel density as the 14" Macbook Pro. I'm sitting on a very large database of monitor data coming from Lunar's diagnostics and error reporting ( https://lunar.fyi ) Maybe I should organize it into Postgres and then search for monitors with the PPI I want. Or is there any easier solution than Postgres for fast ingesting some JSONs and filtering by arb…

JQ can get you started without any db setup as you explore the data

Re: The state of external retina displays

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Post by bluewalt »

fourfour3 wrote: post #48
yrral wrote: post #19

Why is Dell has a 32 inch 8k display which is ~280 ppi in stock. https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-ultrasharp-32-8k-m...

If you're on macOS, your choice for a 27" 4K is realistically either the 'looks like 1080p' high DPI mode, or the 'looks like 1440p' high DPI mode. The 'looks like 1080p' mode makes all of the UI elements huge. The 'looks like 1440p' mode makes text slightly fuzzy as it's being downscaled from 5120x2880 to 3840x2160. It's not terrible , but it's nowhere near as nice as the 27" 5K.

Exactly. I end up to get use to this fuzzy text, but the first time was like "Ughhh this is ugly".
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