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Re: A Tumblr developer on the App Store approval process

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Post by 1123581321 »

agsnu wrote: post #60
1123581321 wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know about tumblr, but reddit doesn't allow nsfw subs out of the box on mobile, and for logged in users, you have to explicitly enable it. Obviously you can still find nsfw content on reddit that isn't labeled as such, so beyond that, it's probably up to the developer's soft skills. reddit probably has some people who are good at framing the app in communication with review, escalating review decisions, and c…

Let's be honest, it likely has much less to do with developer soft skills and more to do with the value Apple perceives from the app being on their platform. The big fish will have more sway; it makes good business sense but it's anti-competitive.

I don't agree, but even if true, the developer can influence the perceived value of their smaller or newer application.

Re: A Tumblr developer on the App Store approval process

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Post by Ygg2 »

kelnos wrote: post #51
djrockstar1 wrote: post #30

It's appalling to me that iOS developers still exist after all the hoops you have to jump through to get an iOS app out. I'm a web developer that got roped into developing and then publishing a react native app for android and iOS. The android process was relatively painless compared to the crap Apple has you do. For starters, you can't even produce an app build without running on iOS, so the company had to procure a…

Well: > Anywho, that’s Apple for you. Why am I still an iOS developer? I dunno, I got bills to pay. People will chase the money. Even with the onerous review process and 30% cut, there's still a good amount of money to be made on the App Store. This is the standard collective action problem: if a significant chunk of iOS app developers just said "that's enough, we're not working on this anymore" (and if legions of ot…

> software developers seem to think they're too good for a union.

Unionizing in global workforce is a fool's errand. Especially when authoritarian governments exist.

Even if there was an IT worker's International, some asshole in e.g. North Korea can prevent IT workers joining on pain of death.

Or outlaw it. Or deem it a terrorist hacker collective.

Re: A Tumblr developer on the App Store approval process

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Post by skeletal88 »

AnonHP wrote: post #20
lwansbrough wrote: post #19

Last week we published a news article advertising a holiday deal for our premium subscription. Of course, our app shows our news articles. So the following day, while we were submitting a bug fix release, a reviewer rejected the app on the grounds that it advertised a premium service that was not available via Apple’s IAP subscriptions. We later found out they were talking about the news article preview tile. Their d…

The other side of this coin are apps that blatantly show banners on opening them to go to their website and purchase a subscription for cheaper. I reported one such app a few times to Apple (using the new report an issue feature on the App Store). It’s probably been at least a couple of months, and that app still continues to do the same. It’s very clear that the rules are arbitrary and are not enforced uniformly. Ap…

Why are you supporting apple and the 30% cut they take? Why do you as a user want apple to continue this?

We are developing a system for our client where their users have to buy a one time token to use it. The tokens are bought from the client's web shop. The iphone and android apps are webviews that contain the website. This was the only sane way to develop the apps because otherwise we would have to constantly deal with the idiotic review process. For example - we had added google sign in but zpple refused our review until we also added apple sign in. A feature that I haven't heard anyone of the customers actually use. Or we had a button going to the webshop. Had to remove this one because apple wanted a 30% cut. If apple got 30% of every token bought then our client wouldn't be in the business at all.

Re: A Tumblr developer on the App Store approval process

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Post by daoismyname »

thewebcount wrote: post #40
saagarjha wrote: post #16

> In the case of Tumblr, this would be a reviewer going to search, typing in something like 'tits’ and finding porn. Just want to emphasize this part. App Store Reviewers are completely asinine. Like, dumb as a rock. It’d almost be funny if their stupidity didn’t block your app approval. To be explicitly clear: if your app contains UGC, they will explicitly go and search for things to ding you on, and then fault you…

> They will go to the search bar and type in “milf” or “butts” (I wish I were joking). They’ll try to search for drugs on your marketplace. I don’t understand why you think that’s dumb. This is what people who download the app will do, so they’re trying out real scenarios that will happen. They don’t want to have there be a segment on the nightly news saying, “App Store Full of Porn!” Which is what will happen in the…

> . This is what people who download the app will do, so they’re trying out real scenarios that will happen

let's ban browsers then or chat apps or sharing apps

and why not apps in general that play images and videos and that enable people to send aforementioned images and videos?

you know what? now that I think about it, let's ban the smart (computing) part from iPhone.

but let's not stop there, let's ban the phone part too, because one could always call an hotline or make a booty call...

Re: A Tumblr developer on the App Store approval process

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Post by daoismyname »

1123581321 wrote: post #61
agsnu wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's be honest, it likely has much less to do with developer soft skills and more to do with the value Apple perceives from the app being on their platform. The big fish will have more sway; it makes good business sense but it's anti-competitive.

I don't agree, but even if true, the developer can influence the perceived value of their smaller or newer application.

> the developer can influence the perceived value of their smaller or newer application

by influence you mean "conform"?

Re: A Tumblr developer on the App Store approval process

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Post by go_prodev »

It appears that the apple tax and review process is a constant problem for iOS developers (according to many linked articles on HN)

If it genuinely is a big problem, why don't the apps band together and advertise the problem to their users? I'm guessing many users don't know/care right now, but might pay attention if the app they love suddenly pulls the plug on iOS.

Edit: like a union

Re: A Tumblr developer on the App Store approval process

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Post by daoismyname »

malwarebytess wrote: post #58
Anon1096 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do Reddit and Twitter pass the App Store review process? I'm pretty sure you can trivially find porn by searching for it.

Can you? Reddit makes you change a setting, save it, reload the page, uncheck a couple more settings, save, before you can see adult content these days. per-account quick test logged out: search "butts" -> no nsfw results on first page search "tits" -> a couple unlabeled nsfw posts (against reddit rules.)

open a browser, navigate to https://www.reddit.com/r/tits/, click yes, done!

Re: A Tumblr developer on the App Store approval process

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Post by IiydAbITMvJkqKf »

idrisser wrote: post #50

Someone should really focus on building a trusted jailbreak solution so we (and not apple or google) can decide what we install on our $1,000 phones. Anyone knows a project working on this?

android + alternative store (f-droid or something else)

Re: A Tumblr developer on the App Store approval process

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Post by skhr0680 »

thewebcount wrote: post #40
saagarjha wrote: post #16

> In the case of Tumblr, this would be a reviewer going to search, typing in something like 'tits’ and finding porn. Just want to emphasize this part. App Store Reviewers are completely asinine. Like, dumb as a rock. It’d almost be funny if their stupidity didn’t block your app approval. To be explicitly clear: if your app contains UGC, they will explicitly go and search for things to ding you on, and then fault you…

> They will go to the search bar and type in “milf” or “butts” (I wish I were joking). They’ll try to search for drugs on your marketplace. I don’t understand why you think that’s dumb. This is what people who download the app will do, so they’re trying out real scenarios that will happen. They don’t want to have there be a segment on the nightly news saying, “App Store Full of Porn!” Which is what will happen in the…

The app store should have porn. I'm sick of American corporations' War on Breasts. These days the comedy bit would be "7 words you can't say on the App Store"

Re: A Tumblr developer on the App Store approval process

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Post by ricardobayes »

skhr0680 wrote: post #69
thewebcount wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They will go to the search bar and type in “milf” or “butts” (I wish I were joking). They’ll try to search for drugs on your marketplace. I don’t understand why you think that’s dumb. This is what people who download the app will do, so they’re trying out real scenarios that will happen. They don’t want to have there be a segment on the nightly news saying, “App Store Full of Porn!” Which is what will happen in the…

The app store should have porn. I'm sick of American corporations' War on Breasts. These days the comedy bit would be "7 words you can't say on the App Store"

Typical American cultural prudeness where nudity is taboo but violence is glorified.
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